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this is somewhere in the skies with Ryan

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hey guys Ryan Sprague here doing an

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impromptu AMA tonight with you it is a

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gloomy rainy day here in Scotland but

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what else is new

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um according to all of my UK friends uh

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this is probably nothing actually

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compared to what they're used to but um

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yeah it was cold it was Breezy it was

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rainy and I thought what better way to

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spend tonight than inside where it's

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warm with you guys we've got way more

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people watching than I expected so thank

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you thank you to everyone who hopped in

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and decided to spend a I don't know

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we'll see we'll see how long this goes

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an hour or so uh with me tonight I

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really really do appreciate it it is

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nine o'clock P.M here in the UK so for

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all of my East Coasters and West

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coasters in the U.S uh welcome good

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morning good afternoon and to everyone

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around the world welcome to a very

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special impromptu AMA nothing's off the

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table I'll answer what ever you want we

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do have a surprise guest that's going to

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show up in just a little bit who broke a

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story uh literally about half an hour

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ago so they are going to come on and

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talk a little about this story and a few

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other questions I have for them turn in

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the tables AMA on our special guests

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coming to you guys very very soon

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um but before we do that I do want to

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let you guys know that the Super Chat

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and super stickers are open if you would

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like to help support someone disguise uh

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your questions will go to the top of the

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list with those super chats and I will

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answer those for you in a little bit I'm

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trying to think of what else I have our

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guest is already here he's early he's a

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professional unlike myself I was about

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three minutes late

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um but a lot of news a lot of news in

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the UFO world lately which we will

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definitely dissect tonight uh probably

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one of the first stories I'm going to

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ask our guest uh in just a little bit

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but um is where is the UAP report we

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were promised a pentagon UFO report the

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first to come out of the arrow this new

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group that is going to be studying UFOs

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within the uh the National Intelligence

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Agency the default Department of Defense

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all these acronyms that I can't keep

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them straight maybe our guests can clear

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this up for me

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um but you know what let's just do it

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let's bring him in he looks ready um

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he's getting over over a cold so I

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really appreciate him coming in tonight

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so

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again

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I should unmute myself you just said I

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was a professional I'm like yeah maybe I

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should turn the mic on apparently uh

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that's good it's good to see you

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you too my man how you feeling

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getting over it it's this time of year

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man California goes from like shorts

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t-shirt weather uh hot go to the beach I

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kid you not literally a day later it's

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freezing we just got rain here it's that

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weather change that kills me every year

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you know enough whining from me but uh

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but yeah it it just it gets me there's

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always one every year around this time

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that just knocks me out for two weeks so

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hopefully I'm on the the tail end of it

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but the story today was just kind of too

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much to to sit on and and wait until my

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voice was better so I thought I'd drop

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the video and and do it yeah well yeah

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and you dropped this video literally to

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gosh 10 20 20 minutes ago

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um and this is some big news coming out

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about a lot of the recent stuff going on

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um everyone watching this has seen these

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Navy videos that we've been watching

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since 2017 that have made the rounds

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that were officially released by the

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Department of Defense there's so much

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you know we're going to be talking about

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these three videos forever but um what I

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think the UFO Community truly wants is

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more videos and we're excited because

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we're being told that they're looking at

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a lot more reports within the Pentagon

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on now than they did previously but this

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last assessment came out but the real

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question on everyone's mind is are we

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going to get more videos are there going

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to be things we could talk about for the

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next three four years and analyze so I

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gotta ask you what was this story you

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dropped today and uh hate us man hit us

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with the honest brutal truth about what

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you learned yeah it well it's both of

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those it's honest and brutal uh just to

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quickly preface the story if uh if you

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or your audience isn't aware a couple

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months ago I had published something and

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and put a video out as well they got

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some International attention and big

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headlines that the Navy was exempting

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100 of their UAP videos now obviously

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we've seen the three videos that they

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have officially released they claim 100

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of everything else that they have was

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was exempt from release due to national

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security reasons well after that

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happened and again there was quite a bit

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of media attention I had submitted a

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very lengthy appeal it's it was

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something that I would consider much

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bigger and more detailed than uh than I

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would normally submit on an appeal

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because I was really fighting for this

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but on top of it I really felt I had a

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strong case to get the Navy to reverse

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the decision

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so fast forward to a couple of hours ago

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I was about to do a interview in uh

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uh uh Denmark I believe they are and

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literally minutes before I go on we did

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the interview but minutes before I go on

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I get this denial letter and I'm like

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nah you got to be kidding me is this the

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same case and I looked up the case I

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went up that's it this is the one that I

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profiled that that

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had denied 100 of the videos and

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essentially what happened was was and

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I'll pull it up on my end too just to

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make sure I'm not misquoting anybody but

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yeah the office of the Judge Advocate

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General had rendered their decision that

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they looked over everything that I put

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in the appeal and denied it so

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for withholding everything and I lost

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now one thing I put in my video that I

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want to kind of relay here is why is

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this important you know some people may

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think well you know they're Secrets

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there's there's secrecy all around you

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know who cares it's the government

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they'll never tell you anything these

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types of decisions are what play a role

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in future disclosures pardon pardon the

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word usage but disclosures in the sense

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of releases to the public uh either

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through foia or MDR or just them wanting

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to be transparent when they review stuff

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like this and make a decision at an

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appellate level not at a foia level even

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though I I lost that part second would

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be the pellet level now you're getting a

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much more serious decision making my

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next step is to go into a courtroom and

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deplete my case to a judge the problem

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with that is we're talking about

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National Security so the exact reason

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that they they are denying all of this

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they won't tell you they'll tell you the

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broad stroke language but we don't know

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exactly why these videos fit into that

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criteria so how do you fight something

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you don't know so beyond my appeal which

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I which I put a lot of effort into how

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do you fight what you are not told on

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why they are are denying this so that's

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why this is important because now this

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can resonate to other military branches

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if it hasn't already that this could

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play a role in their decision to release

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UFO UAP videos for years to come and the

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reason I say years is everything that

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they reviewed by the letter of the law

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they do not have to review it again for

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two years they can cite these cases and

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go sorry you know know that there's been

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a review and they will blanket deny it

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for for two more years and then you can

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submit a let's say MDR and hopefully get

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them to review it again and release it

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but we're two years out from that so

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it's a big development because uh just

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to close the thought you've got people

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out there that are using the disclosure

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word they feel that Congress being

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involved will somehow Trump National

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Security and I've long warned against

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that Congress does not Trump National

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Security they don't just say well look

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my my constituents want to know so you

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have to tell us that's not how that

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works that's why there's closed door

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sessions that's why there's classified

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briefings that's why they hold security

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uh Oaths it's because they will

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represent us in the halls of Congress

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asking odni questions or Navy or DOD or

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whomever but when it comes to

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classification uh they cannot Trump that

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and so what that essentially translates

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to is Congress will want to relay to

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their constituents there on it but at

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the end of the day that secrecy is even

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thicker than it was yesterday which is

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pretty frustrating

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yeah I remember I think last time we had

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you on uh actually this is when you

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brought up these exact points of the

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more they get involved the less we're

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probably gonna know the more they can

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put their you know wrap their fingers

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around it and and close the door a

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little tighter on us with classification

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and we're not just with a UFO topic like

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we're seeing over classification

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happening all over the Pentagon for all

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so many different reasons so why

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wouldn't it involve this topic and why

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wouldn't they use the I guess the

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blanket statement of National Security

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as a reason that we're not getting

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things or the reason that they just flat

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out lie or you know turn about face when

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they're responding to you in your in

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your requests and whatnot like I know

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for a fact and you've stated like you've

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gotten contradicting uh responses from

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different people throughout time uh

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showing clearly there's some sort of

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cover-up or there's some sort sort of um

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dishonesty going on uh it's it's it's

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sobering it's unfortunate but um I I

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guess my question for you John is uh and

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I really want people to go over and

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watch the video guys so definitely go

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watch that where John's gonna go into a

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lot more detail about this but um what

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do you think this says we're now two

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weeks out and we haven't gotten this new

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report coming out uh do you think this

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story uh this response you got has

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anything to do with that I mean are we

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seeing like

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I don't know are they all backtracking

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now and not giving this new uh Arrow

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group their information or Woody I I

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guess my big question is

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um where do you stand on why we haven't

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gotten this report that was supposed to

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come out two weeks ago at this point

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well my guess is as good as anybody's I

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mean I really don't have or claim to

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have any Insider information

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um I I believe that uh part of this uh

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is due to a rewrite I know that that has

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been bantered about online I don't think

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what has been bantered about on Twitter

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is entirely accurate when it comes to a

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rewrite but I don't have the answer to

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that either I wish I did I aim to find

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that out but from what I understand yes

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the the rewrite word came up or a

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request came up and they have been uh

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essentially reworking the report again I

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aim to go after all of this the problem

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with doing it now meaning filing cases

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to try and answer those questions it's

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all still unfolding we don't have an

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answer to it as far as I'm aware the

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report has not been delivered either at

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a classified level or unclassified level

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I look forward to anybody making those

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claims to show the proof but there's no

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proof that that's actually happened and

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so what what hurts all of this is all

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these claims that are being made online

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by various people and we don't really

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have any answers yet uh why it is going

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back to the root of your question again

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I really don't know I'm not sure

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um I got a lot of heat big shocker for

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putting out the the sentiment that I

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think that there's a maybe waning

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Congressional interest in this and and

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as that interest maybe wanes a little

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bit for whatever reason uh you don't

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have the motivation for them to be on

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time and last year was encouraging

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because it was on time and one thing I

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pointed out today on my channel was That

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and the run-up to that report

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you had all these news agencies that

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were doing different stories you had TMZ

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doing man on the streets running around

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with like cell phone camera what do you

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think of the UAP stuff and and getting

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these sound bites that all of us would

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love because these big voices were

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talking about UAP on Fox news on CNN on

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the street with TMZ you know fill in the

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blank it was all over the place this

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time around you don't see that as much

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of course there's a few videos here and

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there but I would I would definitely put

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up the argument that the interest there

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by the media which then fuels the

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motivation by Congress to to get

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involved because they love the spotlight

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let's let's not forget that aspect to

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this it's not all about them wanting to

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be

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um uh transparent and push for

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transparency on UAP I hate to say it but

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they're politicians so they're going to

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go where that interest is to stay in the

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spotlight to make everybody happy and

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yeah get the votes I'm sorry uh that's

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just the reality to it so this time

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around you don't have that and a lot of

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of people push back on me saying well

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we're in the middle of midterms so they

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let it go and I'm a big believer that

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you know I harp on the government a lot

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but they can walk and chew gum so if

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they can't go through that midterm

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season and still ask an agency about a

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congressionally mandated report that's

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an issue you know I mean that's that's a

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problem so what what is the answer is it

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a a waning interest I hope not did odni

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contact Congress you know let's say a

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week before the deadline and say hey

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we're going to be late that's a

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possibility too and and Congress doesn't

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have any requirement to tell us about

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that or odni

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um a little interesting note OD and I

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can rarely if ever put out official

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statements about their Congressional

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correspondence

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um mainly because the public record

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accession acts like the Freedom of

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Information Act they don't apply to

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Congress so you very rarely unless uh

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you know it's approved get odni to talk

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about or any agency to talk about their

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direct communication with Congress

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because that's just not how that works

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or rather you you need Congress to speak

383
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for Congress and uh if they don't want

384
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to tell you there's there's no it

385
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doesn't matter they don't care to tell

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you so we're just kind of left to to

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speculate and that's I think where the

388
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damage is coming in because now you have

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the speculation you have the the

390
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accusations you have all this stuff

391
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going on even news articles writing

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about reports that don't even exist yet

393
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so how did that happen uh that's I in my

394
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opinion may be further supporting that

395
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there was some finished product and then

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somebody squawked to the New York Times

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in the Daily Mail may have been the same

398
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Source who knows but you know there's a

399
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lot of these weird unanswered questions

400
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floating around but at the end of the

401
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day we just don't know yet and I look

402
00:17:00,530 --> 00:16:58,259
forward to figuring it all out but until

403
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we get the confirmation that the report

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either classified unclassified or both

405
00:17:07,549 --> 00:17:05,339
is delivered to Congress that's when I

406
00:17:09,530 --> 00:17:07,559
can act through foia and then put it in

407
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writing but until then they'll likely

408
00:17:12,309 --> 00:17:10,980
reject it because it's still in draft

409
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form

410
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gotcha gotcha yeah and that's all we're

411
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waiting for every time there's a gap or

412
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a void that's when we depend on you to

413
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fill in those gaps and voids with facts

414
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not so special facts no pressure my man

415
00:17:29,690 --> 00:17:27,179
I gotta ask you this um I don't want to

416
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keep you too long I know you're a full a

417
00:17:34,130 --> 00:17:32,220
full afternoon uh Timber Chet recently

418
00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:34,140
saying Congress has compromised sounded

419
00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:36,480
both plausible and dangerous what do you

420
00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:38,940
think John talk about speculation we

421
00:17:43,370 --> 00:17:40,799
have a congress member saying that some

422
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members might be con compromised by

423
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Arrow by the Pentagon uh to not

424
00:17:52,070 --> 00:17:50,160
push this topic forward when you know

425
00:17:54,289 --> 00:17:52,080
when these Congressional hearings were

426
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taking place uh they were really pushing

427
00:17:57,710 --> 00:17:55,860
for it uh what do you make of this

428
00:18:00,590 --> 00:17:57,720
theory that yeah maybe they're

429
00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:00,600
compromised I don't know I I just heard

430
00:18:04,730 --> 00:18:02,700
that myself I think term burchett's an

431
00:18:07,549 --> 00:18:04,740
interesting voice in all of this he had

432
00:18:10,430 --> 00:18:07,559
retweeted something that I had posted a

433
00:18:12,590 --> 00:18:10,440
few months back and uh told me to keep

434
00:18:14,330 --> 00:18:12,600
pushing that it was a cover-up and when

435
00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:14,340
you have a sitting Congressman retweet

436
00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:16,320
you and on anything and say it's a

437
00:18:20,029 --> 00:18:18,000
cover-up it's a very interesting

438
00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:20,039
accusation to make and when you fast

439
00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:22,140
forward and see his history with this

440
00:18:27,049 --> 00:18:24,720
and now saying Congress has compromised

441
00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:27,059
I'd love to pick his brain and ask him

442
00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:28,799
why he says that I mean those are big

443
00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:31,320
allegations to make are they you know

444
00:18:37,610 --> 00:18:34,559
political shots across the bow is this

445
00:18:39,529 --> 00:18:37,620
real information that he has I don't

446
00:18:41,690 --> 00:18:39,539
know I mean again it's it's speculation

447
00:18:43,549 --> 00:18:41,700
but it piqued my interest for somebody

448
00:18:45,650 --> 00:18:43,559
who's who's sitting in Congress to make

449
00:18:47,510 --> 00:18:45,660
that accusation and the reason why I

450
00:18:50,270 --> 00:18:47,520
brought up the retweet on my stuff call

451
00:18:54,770 --> 00:18:50,280
calling it a cover-up is that now he's

452
00:18:56,570 --> 00:18:54,780
got a a clear history of essentially

453
00:18:58,610 --> 00:18:56,580
supporting that idea supporting the

454
00:19:00,409 --> 00:18:58,620
notion that the government is lying to

455
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us they're covering something up and

456
00:19:05,930 --> 00:19:02,760
potentially compromised the compromise

457
00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:05,940
is an interesting word choice um again I

458
00:19:11,330 --> 00:19:09,120
that I I don't want to speculate on uh

459
00:19:13,010 --> 00:19:11,340
but but what one thing that I will talk

460
00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:13,020
about more kind of broadly and

461
00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:16,620
generically uh is when Congress people

462
00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:18,240
go through these briefings and they hear

463
00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:20,760
what they're they're going to hear

464
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um

465
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I want to know if that's kind of the

466
00:19:28,610 --> 00:19:26,760
root cause of them with their waning

467
00:19:31,130 --> 00:19:28,620
interest that they start hearing things

468
00:19:33,409 --> 00:19:31,140
uh that doesn't mean they're necessarily

469
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compromised but rather the questions

470
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that they had while they were on that

471
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TMZ show or Fox News or CNN or whomever

472
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um they start to get answers a little

473
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bit but the answers come in a classified

474
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realm and so now you have to back off a

475
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little bit and stop pushing the issue

476
00:19:54,049 --> 00:19:51,000
I've I've long talked about what I call

477
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the counterintelligence value to the UAP

478
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discussion and essentially what I mean

479
00:20:02,510 --> 00:19:59,100
by it is there are so many layers to

480
00:20:03,970 --> 00:20:02,520
this onion that the U.S military the

481
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:03,980
intelligence agencies and the government

482
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can use it for counterintelligence

483
00:20:12,529 --> 00:20:09,120
purposes that sounds conspiratorial but

484
00:20:15,470 --> 00:20:12,539
it's it's absolutely what they do all

485
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the time and I think that by pleading

486
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ignorance on certain things I quote

487
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unquote identifying things in other

488
00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:22,679
instances you are playing a game not

489
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necessarily with the target of the

490
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American people but rather the worldwide

491
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audience and the worldwide intelligence

492
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agencies that they look now into America

493
00:20:36,830 --> 00:20:34,200
and they think all the crazy Americans

494
00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:36,840
are pushing UFO stuff and then all of a

495
00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:38,460
sudden the government I'll just take one

496
00:20:42,370 --> 00:20:40,200
example that I'm sure will fire up some

497
00:20:44,690 --> 00:20:42,380
people but like the 2004 Nimitz

498
00:20:46,850 --> 00:20:44,700
encounter I don't know if that was

499
00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:46,860
classified Tech or a foreign piece of

500
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classified Tech or whatever it might be

501
00:20:54,409 --> 00:20:52,500
but if they start saying

502
00:20:55,850 --> 00:20:54,419
we don't know what this is and this is a

503
00:20:57,230 --> 00:20:55,860
hypothetical I'm not saying this is true

504
00:20:59,450 --> 00:20:57,240
for anybody who's going to attack me

505
00:21:01,490 --> 00:20:59,460
after but the hypothetical saying they

506
00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:01,500
look at that the military says oh we

507
00:21:06,770 --> 00:21:03,840
have no idea what that Nimitz uh

508
00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:06,780
encounter is and let's just say it was a

509
00:21:12,409 --> 00:21:09,600
Chinese platform that that encroached

510
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onto a naval training exercise

511
00:21:17,390 --> 00:21:15,480
um whatever fill in the blank what are

512
00:21:19,730 --> 00:21:17,400
you doing by saying you don't know what

513
00:21:21,169 --> 00:21:19,740
that is you're confusing the heck out of

514
00:21:22,909 --> 00:21:21,179
the other intelligence agencies going

515
00:21:25,250 --> 00:21:22,919
wait a minute they really didn't know

516
00:21:27,890 --> 00:21:25,260
that was us we thought that they saw

517
00:21:29,450 --> 00:21:27,900
that it was us but you know it's just

518
00:21:31,810 --> 00:21:29,460
kind of those war games that we've

519
00:21:34,909 --> 00:21:31,820
played for decades

520
00:21:37,250 --> 00:21:34,919
the Russians and even formerly the

521
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Soviet Union were doing the exact same

522
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,659
thing not talking about each other in

523
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the same exact Waters that they would

524
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run and there are documented incidents

525
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where submarines would actually scrape

526
00:21:50,690 --> 00:21:48,840
holes going past each other but the

527
00:21:52,430 --> 00:21:50,700
governments wouldn't talk about it right

528
00:21:54,289 --> 00:21:52,440
so it was kind of like this Mutual we

529
00:21:56,029 --> 00:21:54,299
knew you were there but we're not going

530
00:21:57,470 --> 00:21:56,039
to talk about it or acknowledge it and

531
00:21:59,930 --> 00:21:57,480
they would they would do these kind of

532
00:22:01,909 --> 00:21:59,940
War games so again that

533
00:22:05,630 --> 00:22:01,919
counterintelligence value to situations

534
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:05,640
like that is absolute gold but before

535
00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:07,440
anybody thinks that I'm saying it's all

536
00:22:11,810 --> 00:22:09,900
classified Tech it works on the other

537
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:11,820
end too when you have a certain

538
00:22:17,149 --> 00:22:14,159
percentage of cases that don't have an

539
00:22:19,730 --> 00:22:17,159
identification that truly don't have an

540
00:22:22,130 --> 00:22:19,740
ID we have no idea what these are and I

541
00:22:23,950 --> 00:22:22,140
think I'll be at a small percentage I do

542
00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:23,960
think that they're out there

543
00:22:30,529 --> 00:22:27,240
now by kind of just throwing all this

544
00:22:33,169 --> 00:22:30,539
mud out there you kind of hide that in

545
00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:33,179
the process you hide that in the mud so

546
00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:35,580
to speak and so it makes it increasingly

547
00:22:41,390 --> 00:22:38,159
difficult for people like me you your

548
00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:41,400
audience to decipher what in the heck is

549
00:22:45,470 --> 00:22:43,740
going on and and that's where that

550
00:22:47,810 --> 00:22:45,480
counterintelligence value comes in

551
00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:47,820
because now you're having the discussion

552
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:51,240
so you satisfy the public demand you're

553
00:22:55,490 --> 00:22:54,000
creating reports which you know some are

554
00:22:57,649 --> 00:22:55,500
identified some are not there's a

555
00:22:59,450 --> 00:22:57,659
balloon you're showing progress if the

556
00:23:01,549 --> 00:22:59,460
New York Times is accurate with their

557
00:23:03,710 --> 00:23:01,559
summation even though Julian Barnes had

558
00:23:05,630 --> 00:23:03,720
some silly word choices but let's say

559
00:23:08,450 --> 00:23:05,640
that that's happening you've now

560
00:23:11,090 --> 00:23:08,460
satisfied Congress uh but on the world

561
00:23:14,270 --> 00:23:11,100
stage you're also confusing all of these

562
00:23:17,090 --> 00:23:14,280
world powers and in the process and the

563
00:23:19,070 --> 00:23:17,100
true mystery Behind These phenomena the

564
00:23:23,090 --> 00:23:19,080
stuff that all of us are really kind of

565
00:23:26,029 --> 00:23:23,100
the most drawn to uh you hide it all in

566
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:26,039
that mud and I and I think in my opinion

567
00:23:32,029 --> 00:23:29,039
that's what's going on right now uh that

568
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:32,039
that they are using this topic to just

569
00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:35,280
throw mud out there to where people just

570
00:23:40,430 --> 00:23:37,320
give up and you you actually see that

571
00:23:42,110 --> 00:23:40,440
right now with a lot of of voices that

572
00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:42,120
over the last couple of years where big

573
00:23:46,669 --> 00:23:44,700
advocates for transparency

574
00:23:49,130 --> 00:23:46,679
um call them activists if you want

575
00:23:52,010 --> 00:23:49,140
whatever they're doing all of that and

576
00:23:53,330 --> 00:23:52,020
they've gotten so frustrated and it's a

577
00:23:55,730 --> 00:23:53,340
growing list I'm not just talking about

578
00:23:58,370 --> 00:23:55,740
one or two but it's a growing list of

579
00:23:59,930 --> 00:23:58,380
people that just say I'm done I forget

580
00:24:03,710 --> 00:23:59,940
it there's nothing to this because they

581
00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:03,720
get so frustrated with it uh someone in

582
00:24:07,370 --> 00:24:05,460
my channel while the my video was

583
00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:07,380
playing they were so frustrated they

584
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:09,720
said I've invested 30 years of my life

585
00:24:13,789 --> 00:24:12,000
in this I'm out I'm like whoa wait

586
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:13,799
that's not my intent with this video

587
00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:16,640
don't get that don't get that frustrated

588
00:24:23,210 --> 00:24:20,159
but that is part of this Arena and we

589
00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:23,220
can't let them win and we can't let them

590
00:24:28,490 --> 00:24:25,980
achieve that if that really is going on

591
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,500
and I I told myself that 26 years ago

592
00:24:32,330 --> 00:24:30,480
when I was 15. if there was a government

593
00:24:34,490 --> 00:24:32,340
cover-up they would frustrate me to no

594
00:24:36,649 --> 00:24:34,500
end and they'd want me to stop and I

595
00:24:40,010 --> 00:24:36,659
vowed and this is not an exaggeration I

596
00:24:42,169 --> 00:24:40,020
vowed to myself at that point

597
00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:42,179
um it was like in the first few months

598
00:24:46,130 --> 00:24:44,580
first six months of using foia I'm like

599
00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:46,140
wow there's really a cover up here this

600
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:47,340
is what they want me to do because I was

601
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,480
getting frustrated uh even back then now

602
00:24:55,549 --> 00:24:52,799
the stories that's going on now Trump

603
00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:55,559
those but uh I told myself don't do it

604
00:24:59,390 --> 00:24:57,240
that I mean look if there's this massive

605
00:25:01,490 --> 00:24:59,400
cover-up which I believe now is easily

606
00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:01,500
provable uh they want you to go away

607
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,260
don't do it and that's what I kind of

608
00:25:07,850 --> 00:25:06,000
feel is going on now and we're seeing a

609
00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:07,860
growing number of voices that are just

610
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:09,720
saying forget it I'm done they're out

611
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:13,440
and uh and it's uh painful to see I I

612
00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:16,799
wish I didn't see that yeah I know you

613
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,260
know and there are specific people we

614
00:25:24,350 --> 00:25:21,360
could point out who you know were big

615
00:25:26,210 --> 00:25:24,360
activists and just kind of moved on kind

616
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:26,220
of you know took off the rose-colored

617
00:25:32,450 --> 00:25:29,400
glasses and saw the deception that we

618
00:25:34,909 --> 00:25:32,460
deal with in this field uh gosh ever

619
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:34,919
since the beginning and it's frustrating

620
00:25:40,610 --> 00:25:37,980
John I know you uh me many others in

621
00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:40,620
this chat we all have been in this God

622
00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:43,559
I'm going on like over 20 years now

623
00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:45,480
um I know you're you're comparable to

624
00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:48,120
that as well and it is frustrating

625
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,900
because ever since that 2017 article

626
00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:53,039
came out

627
00:25:57,130 --> 00:25:55,320
so many of the people in this field just

628
00:26:00,409 --> 00:25:57,140
had a funny feeling from the very start

629
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:00,419
and I had it I I'm sure I don't want to

630
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,880
speak for you but I'm sure you obviously

631
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,799
were very skeptical

632
00:26:08,690 --> 00:26:06,480
um I ruffled some feathers in the

633
00:26:10,909 --> 00:26:08,700
beginning I think yeah as you should

634
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:10,919
have and as you're still doing and

635
00:26:14,409 --> 00:26:12,480
that's what we need

636
00:26:16,669 --> 00:26:14,419
um it's very

637
00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:16,679
disheartening and it does make like I've

638
00:26:22,850 --> 00:26:19,980
wanted to quit this this to be honest

639
00:26:26,029 --> 00:26:22,860
this for a very long time because

640
00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:26,039
you get you get your heart broken time

641
00:26:30,529 --> 00:26:28,140
and time and time again

642
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:30,539
um and I guess that has more to do with

643
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:34,080
the the power you give this mystery uh

644
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:36,480
at least in my experience you know if

645
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,159
you let it run your life if this is what

646
00:26:43,370 --> 00:26:40,320
you're gonna base every decision on in

647
00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:43,380
your day uh you got a problem like you

648
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:46,500
have to disassociate from this UFO topic

649
00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:48,659
every now and again and live your life

650
00:26:54,350 --> 00:26:52,140
but at the same time it's hard when like

651
00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:54,360
um these headlines keep coming out you

652
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,580
know every week of governments doing

653
00:26:59,390 --> 00:26:57,600
this government's doing this

654
00:27:01,130 --> 00:26:59,400
government's doing this but then we and

655
00:27:03,769 --> 00:27:01,140
the public never hear about any of it

656
00:27:04,850 --> 00:27:03,779
it's it's frustrating and then now we're

657
00:27:06,830 --> 00:27:04,860
learning

658
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:06,840
um that mostly everything is going to be

659
00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:09,360
classified or we're not going to see

660
00:27:13,970 --> 00:27:11,700
videos and it makes a lot of these

661
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:13,980
activists who just got involved be like

662
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,799
oh oh this isn't going to be as easy as

663
00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:18,240
I thought yeah and then you have the

664
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:20,520
older people being like yeah no

665
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:23,279
it's not told you to do this before

666
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:25,740
and and that's the problem history keeps

667
00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:28,799
repeating itself I mean I I think a lot

668
00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:30,539
of people I don't want to say the

669
00:27:34,850 --> 00:27:32,100
majority but I think a lot of people

670
00:27:37,850 --> 00:27:34,860
forget why we're in this we're in this

671
00:27:40,730 --> 00:27:37,860
to get the answers right in my opinion

672
00:27:44,390 --> 00:27:40,740
nobody has the answers nobody has a

673
00:27:46,970 --> 00:27:44,400
hundred percent of of the story and I

674
00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:46,980
think that for me anyway it's the draw

675
00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:50,640
of the mystery and the fun behind what

676
00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:52,140
this is all about

677
00:27:57,230 --> 00:27:54,600
in the process I think some people lose

678
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:57,240
that they may get in for that they'll

679
00:28:03,529 --> 00:28:00,720
see somebody that forgive the word but

680
00:28:06,049 --> 00:28:03,539
but but idolize that they feel that that

681
00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:06,059
they are the truth the way the light I

682
00:28:09,649 --> 00:28:08,400
hate to use that expression but it

683
00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:09,659
becomes

684
00:28:15,289 --> 00:28:13,260
a dangerous way to approach this uh

685
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:15,299
because then all of a sudden you're not

686
00:28:19,789 --> 00:28:17,520
looking for the truth anymore you're

687
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:19,799
looking for your truth right you all

688
00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:22,080
you're looking for is the confirmation

689
00:28:26,390 --> 00:28:24,179
of what you want to believe in I call it

690
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:26,400
the I want to believe syndrome and you

691
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:28,620
sacrifice the reasons that you got into

692
00:28:32,570 --> 00:28:30,240
this you sacrifice common sense you

693
00:28:36,529 --> 00:28:32,580
sacrifice logic you sacrifice all of

694
00:28:38,029 --> 00:28:36,539
that for the belief that you want and

695
00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:38,039
that's where it becomes dangerous it

696
00:28:42,769 --> 00:28:41,100
becomes frustrating it becomes toxic and

697
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:42,779
that's what's what's frustrating we

698
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:45,360
can't lose the root of why we all got in

699
00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:47,760
this and I truly feel that that that

700
00:28:53,930 --> 00:28:50,340
that that root is the same for all of us

701
00:28:56,990 --> 00:28:53,940
now whether or not we sprout a weed from

702
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,000
that root or a plant that grows is all

703
00:29:01,789 --> 00:28:59,279
up to the person uh but just to stick

704
00:29:04,370 --> 00:29:01,799
with that analogy but that's what that's

705
00:29:06,830 --> 00:29:04,380
what I think we're we're now seeing we

706
00:29:09,470 --> 00:29:06,840
have to take a step back and we have to

707
00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:09,480
question the last five years and we have

708
00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:11,460
to question what is really going on

709
00:29:17,810 --> 00:29:14,940
right this isn't personal with anybody

710
00:29:20,690 --> 00:29:17,820
uh this isn't making silly baseless

711
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:20,700
accusations against anybody but rather

712
00:29:27,049 --> 00:29:23,279
this is taking the stories that we've

713
00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:27,059
been told since December of 2017. on

714
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:28,500
both sides of this debate government

715
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:31,380
spokespeople through foia documentation

716
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:34,080
uh in Congressional hearings and those

717
00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:35,940
that have come out of the government or

718
00:29:40,130 --> 00:29:38,220
those advocating that that they want

719
00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:40,140
transparency and they used to work for

720
00:29:44,930 --> 00:29:42,360
the government we have to question what

721
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:44,940
is it that they really want to achieve

722
00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:48,600
here why are we getting this mud from

723
00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:51,240
both angles right the government and

724
00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:53,880
those that were government at one time

725
00:29:59,630 --> 00:29:57,539
thrown into this that's not a bad

726
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:59,640
approach to take but I think again going

727
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:01,440
back to what I was saying that people

728
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:04,799
are looking for their truth it then

729
00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:07,440
becomes a war this isn't research

730
00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:08,940
anymore it's not a conversation anymore

731
00:30:14,930 --> 00:30:11,880
it's not even a debate it is it is a

732
00:30:17,389 --> 00:30:14,940
downright war between those that want to

733
00:30:19,610 --> 00:30:17,399
believe something and then those that

734
00:30:21,649 --> 00:30:19,620
are just trying to figure it out you

735
00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:21,659
know and and those that really just want

736
00:30:27,049 --> 00:30:25,080
the answers and you know not to I don't

737
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:27,059
want to go off on a tangent I apologize

738
00:30:31,010 --> 00:30:29,279
but I think that that going back to what

739
00:30:33,409 --> 00:30:31,020
you were saying this is what I think

740
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:33,419
people have lost and and you see that

741
00:30:40,610 --> 00:30:36,720
come out in passion and frustration and

742
00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:40,620
it is so painful to see because it makes

743
00:30:46,610 --> 00:30:44,520
you wonder is there an an intent to

744
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:46,620
achieve part of that because you do have

745
00:30:51,529 --> 00:30:49,200
these voices that two years ago were

746
00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:51,539
were really on board with advocating for

747
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,460
transparency there was something to

748
00:30:57,049 --> 00:30:54,960
these phenomena they didn't claim to

749
00:30:58,970 --> 00:30:57,059
have answers themselves and then two

750
00:31:02,510 --> 00:30:58,980
years later they're like this is a sham

751
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:02,520
we're getting used they get used

752
00:31:06,649 --> 00:31:05,039
um you s you see that transition and

753
00:31:09,470 --> 00:31:06,659
again if anybody thinks I'm talking

754
00:31:12,889 --> 00:31:09,480
about one or two people trust me I'm not

755
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:12,899
it is a growing list of people that I

756
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:15,840
see in my timeline that are going

757
00:31:21,409 --> 00:31:18,720
through this and it is painful to see it

758
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:21,419
really is because at the end of the day

759
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:24,000
this secrecy has gone on for well more

760
00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:26,100
than a half a century the cover-up is

761
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:29,100
provable with ample evidence that no one

762
00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:30,960
can deny that doesn't automatically

763
00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:32,940
equate to aliens but where I'm going

764
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:35,700
with this is a build up to don't lose

765
00:31:39,889 --> 00:31:37,679
the passion of why you're here because

766
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:39,899
the evidence to support why you're here

767
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:43,440
is easily found the unanswered question

768
00:31:49,850 --> 00:31:46,399
of is it alien that we all want to know

769
00:31:52,430 --> 00:31:49,860
is is something that should still linger

770
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,440
and not something we should take up arms

771
00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:54,720
over and sadly in the last couple of

772
00:32:00,649 --> 00:31:57,720
years there has been a growing sect of

773
00:32:03,769 --> 00:32:00,659
people that have taken up arms over it

774
00:32:06,110 --> 00:32:03,779
and that's where I get really concerned

775
00:32:09,889 --> 00:32:06,120
earned and and um

776
00:32:12,649 --> 00:32:09,899
kind of upset to see because we've lost

777
00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:12,659
good voices we've lost strong voices and

778
00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:15,000
look what's happening there is a in my

779
00:32:18,830 --> 00:32:16,980
opinion dwindling interest within

780
00:32:20,570 --> 00:32:18,840
Congress which is then going to make

781
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:20,580
these government agencies not care about

782
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:22,799
putting more money to it I mean I hope

783
00:32:26,810 --> 00:32:24,480
I'm wrong I'm just saying

784
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:26,820
that's kind of what I'm seeing

785
00:32:31,490 --> 00:32:29,039
let's prove them wrong no man that would

786
00:32:33,169 --> 00:32:31,500
that that's very inspirational and even

787
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:33,179
someone like myself has to hear that

788
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:36,000
especially from someone like you who who

789
00:32:41,630 --> 00:32:39,360
is dealt with every kind of you know

790
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:41,640
I don't like using the word drama but

791
00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:43,200
you get caught up in a lot of things

792
00:32:48,889 --> 00:32:46,200
because of your honesty and because of

793
00:32:51,950 --> 00:32:48,899
the fact by fact basis so to hear you

794
00:32:54,049 --> 00:32:51,960
say this is still worth pursuing there

795
00:32:56,990 --> 00:32:54,059
remember why we're here

796
00:32:58,970 --> 00:32:57,000
um we all need to do that and I try to

797
00:33:01,730 --> 00:32:58,980
do that on a daily basis and for some

798
00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:01,740
reason I'm still here I'm still here I'm

799
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:03,720
still fighting the good fight and I know

800
00:33:08,210 --> 00:33:06,720
you are too um on a more positive note

801
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:08,220
um because I've kept you way longer than

802
00:33:11,570 --> 00:33:09,600
I do no you're good

803
00:33:14,029 --> 00:33:11,580
um okay cool thanks man I appreciate

804
00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:14,039
your time um there's one more story that

805
00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:17,340
you you covered uh that is hopeful and

806
00:33:22,430 --> 00:33:19,980
that's from the uapx group now a lot of

807
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:22,440
you may know this group uh Gary Voorhees

808
00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:26,880
and um who else Jeremy McGowan a bunch

809
00:33:31,730 --> 00:33:29,460
of scientists are involved in this group

810
00:33:35,870 --> 00:33:31,740
and they are doing expeditions to go out

811
00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:35,880
and investigate uh UAP uh primarily near

812
00:33:39,649 --> 00:33:37,320
Catalina Island where the original

813
00:33:42,649 --> 00:33:39,659
Nimitz encounter occurred but they they

814
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:42,659
have other plans as well but um this is

815
00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:46,320
interesting this group who you know is

816
00:33:50,769 --> 00:33:48,120
kind of new on the scene but has been

817
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:50,779
doing incredible work data-driven work

818
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:55,919
uh was contacted by the intelligence

819
00:34:00,649 --> 00:33:59,039
agencies by the uh Pentagon uh more

820
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:00,659
specifically I believe it was the armed

821
00:34:05,870 --> 00:34:03,120
services Committee in Congress right

822
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:05,880
yeah in Congress okay uh to brief that

823
00:34:09,230 --> 00:34:08,399
on the UAP issue and what they have

824
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:09,240
found

825
00:34:13,609 --> 00:34:11,280
um so yeah is there anything you can

826
00:34:15,889 --> 00:34:13,619
kind of break down for us John in terms

827
00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:15,899
of this story I find this very

828
00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:17,460
um uh this is the kind of stuff that

829
00:34:22,669 --> 00:34:20,580
gets me excited and that um there's hope

830
00:34:24,290 --> 00:34:22,679
there's hope for this yeah and I'm

831
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:24,300
pulling up the article just because uh

832
00:34:28,970 --> 00:34:26,700
for the record I don't speak for uapx

833
00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:28,980
and I I don't want to uh oh good you got

834
00:34:32,030 --> 00:34:31,080
the graphic you were all prepared

835
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,040
um

836
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:34,560
that's right yeah and so I just want to

837
00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:36,540
stress I just I had learned about this

838
00:34:43,070 --> 00:34:40,260
and wanted to cover it simply because uh

839
00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:43,080
it was intriguing uh and it was a

840
00:34:49,129 --> 00:34:46,980
briefing to specifically a subcommittee

841
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:49,139
of the house armed services committee

842
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:50,580
specifically the intelligence and

843
00:34:56,810 --> 00:34:54,240
special operations subcommittee and from

844
00:34:58,430 --> 00:34:56,820
what I understand uh

845
00:35:02,329 --> 00:34:58,440
they were asked to come in and

846
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,339
essentially give an overview of uapx uh

847
00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:04,320
and their findings uh and and I urge

848
00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:05,700
everybody to read the article because

849
00:35:10,010 --> 00:35:08,099
again I don't speak for them so I don't

850
00:35:12,589 --> 00:35:10,020
want to like misquote or misrepresent

851
00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:12,599
anything but essentially why I found

852
00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:15,480
this uh encouraging was as we are all

853
00:35:21,470 --> 00:35:19,020
waiting for the UAP report and waiting

854
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,480
for odni to either finish it or do

855
00:35:26,569 --> 00:35:23,520
whatever the heck that they're doing and

856
00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:26,579
get it over to Congress the reason why I

857
00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:28,320
wanted to write this story was to show

858
00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:31,020
does Congress really need that for their

859
00:35:36,349 --> 00:35:33,900
answers when you talk about class in the

860
00:35:38,210 --> 00:35:36,359
classified realm sure you're obviously

861
00:35:40,849 --> 00:35:38,220
dealing with military technology and so

862
00:35:44,690 --> 00:35:40,859
on but if there's a true concern over

863
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:44,700
what UAP are the root of them and it

864
00:35:49,370 --> 00:35:47,280
doesn't encroach into a classified Arena

865
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,380
then why do they need car why do they

866
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,320
need odni to to give them a report that

867
00:35:55,550 --> 00:35:54,240
they can extend into the private sector

868
00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:55,560
where they're getting funding from

869
00:36:00,170 --> 00:35:57,540
elsewhere that it's not Uncle Sam's

870
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,180
coffers that are funding them and

871
00:36:03,950 --> 00:36:01,920
getting some answers there or at least

872
00:36:06,410 --> 00:36:03,960
some clarity or at least some idea or

873
00:36:07,970 --> 00:36:06,420
something from the private sector and

874
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:07,980
that's why I wanted to kind of write the

875
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:11,040
story was because it showed that again

876
00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:12,560
as we're all waiting for the report

877
00:36:16,010 --> 00:36:15,180
Congress is actually out talking to

878
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,020
other people

879
00:36:19,849 --> 00:36:18,480
and and that was encouraging to me that

880
00:36:22,730 --> 00:36:19,859
they were reaching out to the private

881
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:22,740
sector uh and were able to hear

882
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,160
information from uapx and uapx was

883
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,320
gracious enough to allow me to publish

884
00:36:32,329 --> 00:36:30,480
two previously unpublished slides you're

885
00:36:34,130 --> 00:36:32,339
showing the one with data the other one

886
00:36:35,630 --> 00:36:34,140
was the title slide so obviously you

887
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:35,640
know we can't really gleam a lot from

888
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:38,640
that but but uh but rather set up you

889
00:36:44,270 --> 00:36:41,280
know visually what Congress had saw and

890
00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:44,280
then uh capabilities of uapx

891
00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:46,920
I had asked about are they looking for

892
00:36:50,930 --> 00:36:49,740
government contracts or or anything like

893
00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:50,940
that because that obviously was a

894
00:36:54,589 --> 00:36:52,680
concern to me

895
00:36:57,770 --> 00:36:54,599
um not in a disrespectful way but

896
00:37:00,170 --> 00:36:57,780
concerned that if uapx truly has a

897
00:37:02,510 --> 00:37:00,180
effort to go out get some answers and so

898
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:02,520
on if you get a government contract what

899
00:37:06,849 --> 00:37:04,440
happens well take Bigelow Aerospace for

900
00:37:10,190 --> 00:37:06,859
an example they needed a top secret

901
00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:10,200
cleared facility to do the OSAP contract

902
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,980
so again the OSAP UFO debate aside I'm

903
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:15,359
using that as an example that the

904
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,800
paperwork showed they needed that

905
00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:18,960
clearance with that clearance come

906
00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:21,780
secrecy so are you then kind of

907
00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:24,660
pigeonholing your organization into the

908
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:26,520
same path that any intelligence agency

909
00:37:31,609 --> 00:37:29,119
military branch or whatever goes down

910
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,619
and and they go into detail that it

911
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,880
wasn't necessarily looking for

912
00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:34,400
government contracts

913
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:36,599
and again I invite you to read

914
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:38,099
everything that they had submitted for

915
00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:41,040
the article I do publish 100 of the

916
00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:42,780
answers that they give so I didn't

917
00:37:46,270 --> 00:37:44,940
truncate anything or pair phrase or

918
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:46,280
anything like that

919
00:37:52,609 --> 00:37:50,160
but they went through the uh the

920
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:52,619
capabilities and I want to bring up the

921
00:37:58,849 --> 00:37:56,160
quote because it's easily overlooked but

922
00:38:02,510 --> 00:37:58,859
it was one of the more interesting

923
00:38:05,210 --> 00:38:02,520
Revelations from this I had asked if

924
00:38:08,030 --> 00:38:05,220
during the The Briefing did anybody ask

925
00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:08,040
questions from the Congressional side

926
00:38:11,569 --> 00:38:10,140
and what was interesting was this

927
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,579
response most of the questions were

928
00:38:16,370 --> 00:38:13,680
about what we have already recorded or

929
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:16,380
captured if we had capabilities for

930
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,440
undersea monitoring and then it shifted

931
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:21,359
mostly to our funding

932
00:38:27,050 --> 00:38:25,380
so undersea monitoring was what piqued

933
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,060
my interest I wanted to see if anybody

934
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,520
would pick that up I I didn't quote

935
00:38:34,910 --> 00:38:31,200
unquote highlight it in the article I

936
00:38:37,130 --> 00:38:34,920
just let uapx speak for themselves but I

937
00:38:40,670 --> 00:38:37,140
mean let's face it this is now coming up

938
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,680
in multiple ways during the UAP hearing

939
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:42,720
it's they start talking about underwater

940
00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:45,300
monitoring and what happens we can talk

941
00:38:50,690 --> 00:38:47,880
more about that in closed sessions so

942
00:38:52,609 --> 00:38:50,700
whatever these phenomena are obviously

943
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:52,619
there's an underwater connection to this

944
00:38:58,670 --> 00:38:56,160
and obviously there is a concern for

945
00:39:01,490 --> 00:38:58,680
them to ask now for congress this

946
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,500
subcommittee to then ask uapx about

947
00:39:07,069 --> 00:39:03,839
underwater monitoring

948
00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:07,079
what's going on like how big of an issue

949
00:39:11,690 --> 00:39:09,540
is this is this foreign adversaries is

950
00:39:13,849 --> 00:39:11,700
this you know our enemy encroaching into

951
00:39:17,569 --> 00:39:13,859
our Waters and we really are blind to

952
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:17,579
that uh sure maybe uh is there another

953
00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:21,119
aspect to what we consider unidentified

954
00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:25,320
aerial phenomena but underwater maybe I

955
00:39:31,490 --> 00:39:27,780
don't know but to me that was incredibly

956
00:39:33,950 --> 00:39:31,500
intriguing for them to ask that and then

957
00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:33,960
you know uapx obviously convey that to

958
00:39:37,849 --> 00:39:35,640
me when I when I wrote the article so

959
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:37,859
what it means I don't know uh what it

960
00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:40,560
means for uapx I don't know I'm just

961
00:39:45,230 --> 00:39:42,780
stressing I don't speak for them but I'm

962
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:45,240
gonna follow it I I mean I I wish those

963
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,480
guys and gals the best and and what they

964
00:39:52,849 --> 00:39:50,400
want to achieve with this I'm eager to

965
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,859
see results obviously people want to

966
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:55,200
know every little facet of every little

967
00:40:02,750 --> 00:39:58,800
story and I can't or uapx can't answer

968
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,760
that publicly uh at least for now but um

969
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:04,560
you know when they when they publish a

970
00:40:07,490 --> 00:40:05,760
news story or want to come out with

971
00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:07,500
something else I'll definitely be

972
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,839
following it because again it it was an

973
00:40:14,089 --> 00:40:11,280
interesting Revelation for a

974
00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:14,099
subcommittee to give the time to the

975
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:16,380
private sector ask the questions that

976
00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:19,440
they did and it really brings up that

977
00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:22,380
that concept that OD and I and the

978
00:40:26,690 --> 00:40:23,820
intelligence Community can do whatever

979
00:40:28,670 --> 00:40:26,700
they want in the classified realm and

980
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,680
Slough Congress off and be delayed with

981
00:40:32,329 --> 00:40:30,960
whatever report but Congress may start

982
00:40:34,609 --> 00:40:32,339
turning to the private sector for

983
00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:34,619
answers I'm speculating there a little

984
00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:37,560
bit but obviously they're interested so

985
00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:39,900
we'll we'll see how that turns out if if

986
00:40:48,050 --> 00:40:40,920
at all

987
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,060
uh non what were they all those missed

988
00:40:52,310 --> 00:40:50,400
phone calls I've had on my phone I think

989
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:52,320
that's that was definitely the odni

990
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,000
reaching out to me and reaching out to

991
00:40:58,849 --> 00:40:56,880
other UFO researchers I wish I wish John

992
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:58,859
you know

993
00:41:02,930 --> 00:41:01,440
um that would be too easy it would be

994
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:02,940
much people who have actually done

995
00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:04,980
investigation rather than hiring people

996
00:41:08,089 --> 00:41:06,660
who don't care to do the investigation

997
00:41:11,630 --> 00:41:08,099
but hey you know I mean that's that's

998
00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:11,640
government work for you exactly exactly

999
00:41:15,530 --> 00:41:13,560
um well I mean to kind of wrap things up

1000
00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:15,540
John what else what are you hopeful

1001
00:41:21,410 --> 00:41:18,420
about any anything moving forward we've

1002
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:21,420
had a lot of um a lot of sobering news

1003
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:23,940
on the UFO front lately

1004
00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:25,200
um you know ever since that New York

1005
00:41:28,430 --> 00:41:27,180
Times article came out a few weeks back

1006
00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:28,440
now

1007
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:30,420
um kind of deflated a lot of people then

1008
00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:32,160
the report

1009
00:41:37,370 --> 00:41:34,920
um and unfortunately now this Stark

1010
00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:37,380
reality of the story that you came out

1011
00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:40,680
with uh no more videos uh what do you

1012
00:41:45,710 --> 00:41:43,260
hope hopeful for moving forward with

1013
00:41:48,290 --> 00:41:45,720
this topic anything anything any groups

1014
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,300
any organizations anything any requests

1015
00:41:52,310 --> 00:41:50,400
you've made yeah give it to us yeah tons

1016
00:41:55,370 --> 00:41:52,320
of requests are are still out

1017
00:41:58,250 --> 00:41:55,380
um for me where I I will leave on a on a

1018
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,260
positive note is that even though that

1019
00:42:02,089 --> 00:42:00,480
they're denying you know videos and

1020
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,099
stuff and that's the eye candy we all

1021
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:03,839
want to see and sure that's frustrating

1022
00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:06,780
the amount of Paper Trails that go into

1023
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:09,960
all of this uh is literally astronomical

1024
00:42:14,690 --> 00:42:12,240
right from the emails to the letters to

1025
00:42:17,089 --> 00:42:14,700
the communications so when I see a late

1026
00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:17,099
UAP report all I see are Paper Trails

1027
00:42:21,530 --> 00:42:19,560
that's all I see in my head I'm like I

1028
00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:21,540
can't wait to go after this because I

1029
00:42:28,609 --> 00:42:23,640
want to see what's going on the public

1030
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:28,619
report came out uh in June of of 2021 uh

1031
00:42:33,650 --> 00:42:30,720
all I saw was the Paper Trails leading

1032
00:42:36,170 --> 00:42:33,660
up to that that report that nine page or

1033
00:42:41,870 --> 00:42:36,180
whatever it was report is stemmed over

1034
00:42:44,750 --> 00:42:41,880
50 5-0 requests to 13 13 different

1035
00:42:46,609 --> 00:42:44,760
agencies I think it was 13 or 14.

1036
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:46,619
um so you look for those those those

1037
00:42:52,849 --> 00:42:49,740
those trails to go after and just start

1038
00:42:54,650 --> 00:42:52,859
sniffing them out and in my opinion

1039
00:42:57,050 --> 00:42:54,660
it's those trails that were are going to

1040
00:42:59,809 --> 00:42:57,060
tell us more and in my opinion have told

1041
00:43:02,030 --> 00:42:59,819
us more the NASA I'm not sure if you're

1042
00:43:04,130 --> 00:43:02,040
aware of this but I just dropped I think

1043
00:43:09,710 --> 00:43:04,140
collectively it's probably over 1500

1044
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:09,720
pages of NASA UAP related emails on UAP

1045
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:13,680
and UFOs and in there were yeah the less

1046
00:43:18,290 --> 00:43:15,119
interesting stuff are just media

1047
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,300
inquiries and how NASA responds to Media

1048
00:43:23,089 --> 00:43:20,640
inquiries but through those cases I

1049
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:23,099
discovered when uh administrator Bill

1050
00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:24,960
Nelson was briefed in a classified

1051
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,300
setting it was the first time I was able

1052
00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:30,240
to prove uh documentation wise that that

1053
00:43:34,670 --> 00:43:32,940
Jay Stratton was the lead of the UAP

1054
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,680
task force now it's more common

1055
00:43:38,510 --> 00:43:36,480
knowledge but when I received that

1056
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,520
document it had not been acknowledged by

1057
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:41,280
anybody before I had just kind of

1058
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:43,380
deduced it but was never able to prove

1059
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:46,800
it that came as part of the NASA

1060
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:49,200
releases I learned that a classified

1061
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:53,280
briefing on the UAP report was record it

1062
00:43:57,470 --> 00:43:56,400
on video and I know where to get it now

1063
00:44:00,770 --> 00:43:57,480
that doesn't mean it's going to be

1064
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:00,780
released but what that proves is from a

1065
00:44:06,890 --> 00:44:04,079
legal standpoint a video exists it is

1066
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:06,900
something that is foilable that I can go

1067
00:44:13,309 --> 00:44:11,280
after and so these types of releases are

1068
00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:13,319
what they don't want you to see you know

1069
00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:14,760
that nine page report sure there was

1070
00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:16,680
interesting tidbits but it's those Paper

1071
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,900
Trails that lead to so much so those

1072
00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:20,880
1500 pages just to kind of close up the

1073
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:22,260
thought I'm going to take over your show

1074
00:44:26,569 --> 00:44:23,760
Ryan I know you're doing no this is

1075
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,579
incredible man this was an impromptu AMA

1076
00:44:30,589 --> 00:44:28,319
you know how those go I mean not for you

1077
00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:30,599
you people have a million questions for

1078
00:44:35,050 --> 00:44:32,220
you but I'm always terrified that no

1079
00:44:38,089 --> 00:44:35,060
one's going to ask me any questions so

1080
00:44:39,530 --> 00:44:38,099
don't worry I have the same same fear

1081
00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:39,540
whenever I live stream like nobody's

1082
00:44:42,650 --> 00:44:40,920
going to show up to this man I'm like No

1083
00:44:44,270 --> 00:44:42,660
One's Gonna know dude we got over 80

1084
00:44:47,089 --> 00:44:44,280
people watching this and I guarantee

1085
00:44:49,130 --> 00:44:47,099
it's because uh you you retweeted that

1086
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:49,140
you were that I was doing I just was

1087
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,640
curious who your guest was and then I

1088
00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:52,079
stumbled on the link I was like I'll

1089
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,180
just join this show

1090
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,400
um whoops but but yeah so those NASA

1091
00:45:00,530 --> 00:44:57,839
emails uh and I haven't actually

1092
00:45:03,770 --> 00:45:00,540
advertised this yet so this is new uh

1093
00:45:06,410 --> 00:45:03,780
only go up to about June of last year

1094
00:45:08,990 --> 00:45:06,420
which means then essentially the run-up

1095
00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:09,000
to their UAP effort

1096
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:11,640
all of those Communications all of those

1097
00:45:17,329 --> 00:45:14,160
those emails all of that were actually

1098
00:45:20,030 --> 00:45:17,339
not in this dump of uh there were six

1099
00:45:23,210 --> 00:45:20,040
total data dumps from NASA to me which

1100
00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:23,220
then I put online uh if that time frame

1101
00:45:29,450 --> 00:45:26,280
is not there of the ramp up up to this

1102
00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:29,460
UAP study so last week when everything

1103
00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:31,260
was completed and I got the sixth

1104
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:34,200
request I filed a new case with new

1105
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,640
names to NASA and Langley and

1106
00:45:43,370 --> 00:45:40,800
a couple others that I can't think of

1107
00:45:44,930 --> 00:45:43,380
right now uh but all NASA facilities all

1108
00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:44,940
with the new names that I had discovered

1109
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:47,160
with the last one and refiled

1110
00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:50,400
essentially the same case or cases but

1111
00:45:54,890 --> 00:45:52,500
now getting the time frame of the UAP

1112
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:54,900
study and for me I think that that's

1113
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:57,599
going to reveal a ton of material

1114
00:46:04,250 --> 00:46:01,200
because also in that our Communications

1115
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:04,260
with the Navy the Pentagon and the dod

1116
00:46:09,770 --> 00:46:06,720
and other military branches as they all

1117
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:09,780
communicate during this whole process so

1118
00:46:14,809 --> 00:46:12,000
when I talk about Paper Trails there's

1119
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:14,819
12 billion of them to discover because

1120
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:17,760
those email chains and so on then they

1121
00:46:22,609 --> 00:46:19,440
take the documents that let's say the

1122
00:46:26,030 --> 00:46:22,619
Navy wrote they have to then give it to

1123
00:46:29,210 --> 00:46:26,040
the Navy for review so I may have never

1124
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,220
thought of a specific person at the Navy

1125
00:46:32,569 --> 00:46:30,960
to request their emails because I don't

1126
00:46:34,730 --> 00:46:32,579
know them you know I don't know every

1127
00:46:37,970 --> 00:46:34,740
Naval Personnel that's involved in the

1128
00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:37,980
UAP conversation but with NASA you look

1129
00:46:41,630 --> 00:46:39,000
for those names

1130
00:46:42,829 --> 00:46:41,640
file requests on those names and then it

1131
00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:42,839
doesn't matter if you don't know the

1132
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:45,000
Navy person all the emails come up

1133
00:46:48,829 --> 00:46:46,560
because you were looking at the NASA

1134
00:46:51,170 --> 00:46:48,839
personnel and so then they transfer that

1135
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:51,180
over to the Navy the Navy looks it over

1136
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,040
and they release it sometimes with the

1137
00:46:58,970 --> 00:46:55,440
name revealed sometimes not but then

1138
00:47:00,530 --> 00:46:58,980
that creates more Paper Trails so not to

1139
00:47:02,990 --> 00:47:00,540
be long-winded but where I'm going with

1140
00:47:05,569 --> 00:47:03,000
this is that there's still so much to

1141
00:47:07,250 --> 00:47:05,579
discover and there's so much so much to

1142
00:47:09,770 --> 00:47:07,260
be revealed

1143
00:47:12,109 --> 00:47:09,780
um one of the NASA papers that came out

1144
00:47:14,089 --> 00:47:12,119
was David spurgle's paper on UFOs and

1145
00:47:16,370 --> 00:47:14,099
his thoughts about UFOs that was never

1146
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:16,380
public before that came up in the in the

1147
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:19,200
NASA foia request so you start seeing

1148
00:47:23,630 --> 00:47:20,640
how people

1149
00:47:25,849 --> 00:47:23,640
feel about this topic so then that UAP

1150
00:47:29,089 --> 00:47:25,859
public report whether it be the 2021

1151
00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:29,099
version or 2022 becomes Irrelevant in a

1152
00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:31,020
sense because that's just what they want

1153
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:33,780
you to know I want to know what is going

1154
00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:36,240
on internally behind the scenes what

1155
00:47:40,450 --> 00:47:38,460
went into that report who is involved if

1156
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:40,460
though if they'll release those names

1157
00:47:44,990 --> 00:47:42,960
one other Revelation that came from the

1158
00:47:47,390 --> 00:47:45,000
national reconnaissance office was that

1159
00:47:49,730 --> 00:47:47,400
the UAP task force had a whole Advisory

1160
00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:49,740
board for the task force that was never

1161
00:47:54,890 --> 00:47:52,140
revealed before we could safely assume

1162
00:47:57,470 --> 00:47:54,900
they would we can hope they would but it

1163
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,480
was never in writing before so you see

1164
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,040
all of these things that are going on

1165
00:48:03,170 --> 00:48:01,440
behind the scenes and that wasn't in the

1166
00:48:05,210 --> 00:48:03,180
report that wasn't revealed in some

1167
00:48:07,370 --> 00:48:05,220
press statement so there's a lot there's

1168
00:48:09,290 --> 00:48:07,380
a lot going on there's a lot still

1169
00:48:11,329 --> 00:48:09,300
coming just because they won't give you

1170
00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:11,339
the videos doesn't mean that they won't

1171
00:48:16,609 --> 00:48:14,280
give you the written reports about UAP

1172
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:16,619
or UFOs will it be a fight absolutely

1173
00:48:21,170 --> 00:48:18,839
but that doesn't mean that those are

1174
00:48:23,329 --> 00:48:21,180
completely lost we've been able to to

1175
00:48:24,890 --> 00:48:23,339
extract some of those and and there's a

1176
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:24,900
lot of people obviously going for them

1177
00:48:31,309 --> 00:48:27,359
uh the last thought I'll leave you with

1178
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:31,319
is uh there have been quite a few FAA

1179
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:34,319
reports that are popping up of UAP being

1180
00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:36,960
seen by pilots obviously Ben Hansen's

1181
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:40,500
been been uh researching quite a bit uh

1182
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,680
but I have uh filed some requests on

1183
00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:45,359
other cases I have nothing to do with

1184
00:48:51,050 --> 00:48:47,220
those racetrack ones but rather they're

1185
00:48:52,849 --> 00:48:51,060
seeing them all over and FAA has taken

1186
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,859
the reports I've got all the flight

1187
00:48:56,809 --> 00:48:54,480
numbers and so on and so forth so I've

1188
00:48:59,210 --> 00:48:56,819
got quite a few cases filed with that as

1189
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:59,220
well so when they're released I'll I'll

1190
00:49:04,510 --> 00:49:00,839
definitely post them and I've already

1191
00:49:07,370 --> 00:49:04,520
posted some from the past one I think

1192
00:49:09,050 --> 00:49:07,380
ultimately was probably starlink but

1193
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:09,060
regardless you can start seeing the

1194
00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:11,760
Paper Trails you know come about and and

1195
00:49:16,910 --> 00:49:14,520
and researching UAP when it comes to the

1196
00:49:18,589 --> 00:49:16,920
FAA I'm trying to think of how many

1197
00:49:21,410 --> 00:49:18,599
acronyms I can throw into this answer

1198
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:21,420
Ryan I just throw throw out a ton of

1199
00:49:25,790 --> 00:49:22,800
them to you but anyway there's a lot

1200
00:49:29,210 --> 00:49:25,800
going on and and I I don't want anybody

1201
00:49:31,790 --> 00:49:29,220
to think hey I'm I'm I'm done with this

1202
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:31,800
I should go away because I go back to my

1203
00:49:35,210 --> 00:49:34,140
answer before the true reason why we are

1204
00:49:37,609 --> 00:49:35,220
all here

1205
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:37,619
is still there don't let the government

1206
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:40,319
deter you from seeking answers don't let

1207
00:49:45,890 --> 00:49:43,440
foia denials deter you from that just

1208
00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:45,900
remember why we're all here and we'll

1209
00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:48,180
all have fun in the process and and try

1210
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:51,180
and get to whatever truth is going on if

1211
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,400
we can absolutely man

1212
00:49:57,650 --> 00:49:55,440
um and to kind of end it here I want to

1213
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:57,660
play this quick clip that I know you

1214
00:50:02,630 --> 00:49:59,760
appreciate this guy's work as much as I

1215
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:02,640
do kind of a joke about the UAP report

1216
00:50:06,290 --> 00:50:04,079
being late

1217
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,300
um thank God for this guy otherwise you

1218
00:50:10,970 --> 00:50:09,119
know everyone's all mad and and grumpy

1219
00:50:13,130 --> 00:50:10,980
about it but not this guy so let's go

1220
00:50:16,130 --> 00:50:13,140
ahead and play it before we let you go

1221
00:50:21,170 --> 00:50:16,140
here day number nine and still no UFO

1222
00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:21,180
report nine days really nine days this

1223
00:50:25,790 --> 00:50:23,640
is getting ridiculous do you have any

1224
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:25,800
idea what can be done in less than nine

1225
00:50:30,530 --> 00:50:28,319
days because if you don't I just so

1226
00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:30,540
happen to have a list ready you could

1227
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:32,280
walk your foot Dragon self from the

1228
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,040
Pentagon to Atlanta you could float your

1229
00:50:39,770 --> 00:50:37,200
boat down the Amazon you could take a

1230
00:50:41,809 --> 00:50:39,780
car for a lap around Australia or you

1231
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:41,819
could even fly to the moon plant a flag

1232
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:43,920
on it and fly back to Earth

1233
00:50:50,089 --> 00:50:46,800
so what's taking so long

1234
00:50:52,609 --> 00:50:50,099
that's crazy fly to the moon and back

1235
00:50:55,730 --> 00:50:52,619
and that was nine days ago he's done

1236
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:55,740
more since then too yeah I that guy he's

1237
00:50:59,930 --> 00:50:58,319
so entertaining I I love what he does

1238
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:59,940
and when he was starting to do these

1239
00:51:03,650 --> 00:51:01,920
videos I kept you know prodding him

1240
00:51:04,849 --> 00:51:03,660
through tweets and stuff I was like

1241
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,859
where's it you know where's day three

1242
00:51:08,809 --> 00:51:07,200
where's day four what's going on and

1243
00:51:11,210 --> 00:51:08,819
there was one that he dropped and he had

1244
00:51:13,309 --> 00:51:11,220
all these reactions and he was like the

1245
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:13,319
one that got me was he was crying in bed

1246
00:51:18,349 --> 00:51:15,540
and he was holding stuffed animals

1247
00:51:21,170 --> 00:51:18,359
and so I said this has to be a reaction

1248
00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:21,180
gift we have to make this and before I

1249
00:51:26,089 --> 00:51:24,300
did that Grant levock from uh from

1250
00:51:27,470 --> 00:51:26,099
Australia if you don't know Grant follow

1251
00:51:29,809 --> 00:51:27,480
him on Twitter he's an awesome guy

1252
00:51:32,930 --> 00:51:29,819
really follows the Australian connection

1253
00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:32,940
to all of this so he is the guy that

1254
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:35,400
does all the the fun joking deep fake

1255
00:51:40,670 --> 00:51:38,160
videos you know and and so he saw my

1256
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,680
tweet grab the video automatically made

1257
00:51:46,370 --> 00:51:42,480
the animated gif so now we have a full

1258
00:51:47,809 --> 00:51:46,380
set of Dan Warren reaction gifts so I

1259
00:51:50,829 --> 00:51:47,819
keep posting that one where he's crying

1260
00:51:54,290 --> 00:51:50,839
holding his stuffy and I he's just uh

1261
00:51:55,790 --> 00:51:54,300
he's one of the examples of of why I

1262
00:51:59,329 --> 00:51:55,800
love this field right there's a lot of

1263
00:52:01,849 --> 00:51:59,339
examples of why it's no fun but Dan and

1264
00:52:04,250 --> 00:52:01,859
Grant and yourself Ryan everybody who

1265
00:52:06,650 --> 00:52:04,260
has fun with this

1266
00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:06,660
excuse me it remembers like why we're

1267
00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:09,420
here uh that's why I'm still around too

1268
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:11,460
you know it's it's so motivating to see

1269
00:52:15,230 --> 00:52:13,920
that because it's it's not about arguing

1270
00:52:18,829 --> 00:52:15,240
somebody's point or you better believe

1271
00:52:20,329 --> 00:52:18,839
me or I'm gonna XYZ you uh it's just

1272
00:52:21,950 --> 00:52:20,339
about having fun and asking those

1273
00:52:23,630 --> 00:52:21,960
questions and Dan's a prime example so

1274
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,640
I'm glad you I'm glad you played the

1275
00:52:28,609 --> 00:52:25,680
video because it's it's uh absolutely

1276
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:28,619
reinforces my point earlier about just

1277
00:52:33,049 --> 00:52:31,440
remembering why we're here yeah and he's

1278
00:52:35,809 --> 00:52:33,059
even getting his whole family involved

1279
00:52:38,569 --> 00:52:35,819
on these I know okay it's amazing yeah

1280
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,579
again you you encapsulate it perfectly

1281
00:52:43,370 --> 00:52:40,800
why we're here and I think that's what's

1282
00:52:45,170 --> 00:52:43,380
driving me to continue even as I Wade

1283
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:45,180
through all this government stuff as you

1284
00:52:50,210 --> 00:52:48,240
do so um John thanks man thanks for

1285
00:52:53,210 --> 00:52:50,220
hopping in last minute of course for my

1286
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:53,220
uh for saving my AMA uh this is all

1287
00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:55,200
extreme feel bad take over your show

1288
00:53:00,589 --> 00:52:57,480
Ryan anything oh no I've got a whole

1289
00:53:02,569 --> 00:53:00,599
episode now buddy no no this is great I

1290
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,579
don't have to worry for another week

1291
00:53:06,890 --> 00:53:04,800
um but uh where can we find everything

1292
00:53:09,049 --> 00:53:06,900
you're up to my man and yeah give us

1293
00:53:11,049 --> 00:53:09,059
those socials before before sure sure

1294
00:53:14,329 --> 00:53:11,059
the the easiest roadmap just go to the

1295
00:53:16,849 --> 00:53:14,339
blackvault.com and uh at the top of the

1296
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:16,859
site you'll see social media icons at

1297
00:53:22,370 --> 00:53:18,900
the bottom of the Articles you'll see

1298
00:53:25,150 --> 00:53:22,380
everything uh I'm probably arguably most

1299
00:53:27,010 --> 00:53:25,160
active on Twitter the handle is black

1300
00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:27,020
vault.com

1301
00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:29,700
uh the rest again I invite you to click

1302
00:53:32,589 --> 00:53:31,260
on the icon so I don't bore you to death

1303
00:53:35,450 --> 00:53:32,599
because there's different variations

1304
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:35,460
depending upon username availability but

1305
00:53:40,910 --> 00:53:38,400
yeah the blackvault.com that'll give you

1306
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,920
the road map to all the Articles YouTube

1307
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:43,200
channel and especially for the story

1308
00:53:47,329 --> 00:53:45,119
that we were talking about earlier that

1309
00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:47,339
Ryan had brought up uh I'll have that on

1310
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:49,260
the on the YouTube channel obviously

1311
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:52,079
today is the most recent video so enjoy

1312
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,000
feel free to to contact me and I'm

1313
00:53:58,250 --> 00:53:56,160
always interested in feedback

1314
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:58,260
perfect perfect yep and you do

1315
00:54:01,849 --> 00:54:00,240
everything in podcast form too guys so

1316
00:54:04,130 --> 00:54:01,859
subscribe to that wherever you get

1317
00:54:06,170 --> 00:54:04,140
somewhere in the skies as well uh John

1318
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,180
thank you my man have a great rest of

1319
00:54:10,010 --> 00:54:08,160
your afternoon and uh keep fighting the

1320
00:54:12,109 --> 00:54:10,020
good fight my man I appreciate that can

1321
00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:12,119
I ask you one question to start off your

1322
00:54:17,329 --> 00:54:16,020
AMA oh my gosh please do it was asked to

1323
00:54:18,589 --> 00:54:17,339
me in a live stream I thought it was a

1324
00:54:20,750 --> 00:54:18,599
brilliant question

1325
00:54:22,910 --> 00:54:20,760
and I don't remember

1326
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:22,920
if I Revisited it but I was so on the

1327
00:54:26,690 --> 00:54:24,720
spot I couldn't answer it so my so the

1328
00:54:29,150 --> 00:54:26,700
question is and I forget the person's

1329
00:54:32,089 --> 00:54:29,160
name who asked me if you could meet one

1330
00:54:34,609 --> 00:54:32,099
person in the UFO field that you've

1331
00:54:37,549 --> 00:54:34,619
never uh that you never met before but

1332
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:37,559
has passed on who would it be and what's

1333
00:54:43,849 --> 00:54:41,040
the question you would ask wow who is

1334
00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:43,859
passed on okay right I did the same

1335
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,380
thing I was like huh I don't know

1336
00:54:52,910 --> 00:54:48,720
is passed on

1337
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:55,130
that is such a good question that I'm

1338
00:55:00,049 --> 00:54:57,599
I'm drawing a blank right now

1339
00:55:01,730 --> 00:55:00,059
um that's exactly my reaction so I

1340
00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:01,740
wanted to I wanted to see if you if you

1341
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:04,500
had a i later when I got off I wanted to

1342
00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:06,000
contact the guy

1343
00:55:11,650 --> 00:55:09,240
do you have it oh no no I was gonna I I

1344
00:55:13,970 --> 00:55:11,660
know that feeling like later on

1345
00:55:16,670 --> 00:55:13,980
it's like two in the morning I woke up

1346
00:55:20,270 --> 00:55:16,680
like I I've got an answer now

1347
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,280
um later I I had thought of uh J Allen

1348
00:55:24,589 --> 00:55:23,040
heineck and and and the reason is I I

1349
00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:24,599
want to ask them because there's a lot

1350
00:55:28,849 --> 00:55:25,619
of speculation I mean I think everybody

1351
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,859
believes Socorro is what turned him uh

1352
00:55:32,690 --> 00:55:30,240
essentially from that again skeptical

1353
00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:32,700
standpoint to the to the believer uh but

1354
00:55:38,930 --> 00:55:35,940
he worked with uh a dear uh friend I

1355
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:38,940
knew for decades who has passed on uh

1356
00:55:44,270 --> 00:55:41,760
Ted Phillips and and I I did shows with

1357
00:55:48,109 --> 00:55:44,280
Ted spoke at conferences with Ted new

1358
00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:48,119
Ted and that's why then I I was kicking

1359
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:49,500
myself I didn't think of Jay Alan

1360
00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:52,559
heineck uh at the time because he was

1361
00:55:58,490 --> 00:55:54,780
obviously Ted's Mentor so knowing Ted

1362
00:56:00,770 --> 00:55:58,500
personally for so long I knew that

1363
00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:00,780
uh heineck probably had a much better

1364
00:56:05,809 --> 00:56:03,660
answer than oh yeah it was Socorro like

1365
00:56:07,609 --> 00:56:05,819
I would love to hear what really made

1366
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:07,619
him go you know what

1367
00:56:11,630 --> 00:56:09,359
there's something to this this is not

1368
00:56:14,210 --> 00:56:11,640
the swamp gas the planet Venus and and

1369
00:56:17,150 --> 00:56:14,220
so on so yeah that was the answer I I

1370
00:56:18,589 --> 00:56:17,160
thought of after but uh I was curious

1371
00:56:21,170 --> 00:56:18,599
your thoughts so put some thought into

1372
00:56:22,730 --> 00:56:21,180
I'm sure in a later show yeah I'm going

1373
00:56:24,890 --> 00:56:22,740
towards I'm leaning towards James

1374
00:56:27,950 --> 00:56:24,900
McDonald just because it was such a

1375
00:56:30,829 --> 00:56:27,960
tragic end to that guy's career and life

1376
00:56:33,410 --> 00:56:30,839
and I wish there was something we could

1377
00:56:35,870 --> 00:56:33,420
have done back then in the field to be

1378
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:35,880
like dude just keep going because we've

1379
00:56:41,930 --> 00:56:39,119
all been there and he he battled his own

1380
00:56:44,270 --> 00:56:41,940
demons and and mental illness and

1381
00:56:46,790 --> 00:56:44,280
whatnot but um you know I ultimately

1382
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:46,800
think that a lot of his depression came

1383
00:56:51,710 --> 00:56:49,200
from this topic and it can do that it

1384
00:56:53,809 --> 00:56:51,720
can really really eat away at you so if

1385
00:56:56,450 --> 00:56:53,819
we could have had him listen to you

1386
00:56:58,190 --> 00:56:56,460
talking about keep going like there's

1387
00:57:00,349 --> 00:56:58,200
always there's a core mystery that's why

1388
00:57:03,410 --> 00:57:00,359
we're here I think uh things might have

1389
00:57:05,329 --> 00:57:03,420
uh and that might be really Blasphemous

1390
00:57:06,410 --> 00:57:05,339
to say and controversial but things

1391
00:57:08,210 --> 00:57:06,420
might have been different for Mr

1392
00:57:11,150 --> 00:57:08,220
McDonald yeah if he had did you

1393
00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:11,160
encourage you ever meet uh Ann druffle

1394
00:57:14,809 --> 00:57:14,040
no that that name did come to mind as

1395
00:57:17,569 --> 00:57:14,819
well

1396
00:57:19,549 --> 00:57:17,579
um Andrew James McDonald and everyone's

1397
00:57:21,650 --> 00:57:19,559
saying Stanton Friedman we've both had

1398
00:57:23,930 --> 00:57:21,660
the unbelievable pleasure to have worked

1399
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:23,940
with standing yeah yeah

1400
00:57:30,109 --> 00:57:27,359
I knew stand for 20 something 20

1401
00:57:32,750 --> 00:57:30,119
something years yeah you did it it was a

1402
00:57:35,170 --> 00:57:32,760
wonderful um yeah when I did that

1403
00:57:37,370 --> 00:57:35,180
tribute to him that's right

1404
00:57:38,450 --> 00:57:37,380
no that was it was cool that you did

1405
00:57:40,190 --> 00:57:38,460
that

1406
00:57:42,410 --> 00:57:40,200
um yeah he was he was a great one but I

1407
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:42,420
bring up Ann just sadly who also passed

1408
00:57:48,049 --> 00:57:45,359
on but uh her book on uh James McDonald

1409
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:48,059
is definitely more detailed than

1410
00:57:52,609 --> 00:57:50,400
anything I'm aware of so anyway I'll let

1411
00:57:54,530 --> 00:57:52,619
you do your AMA I'm happy I got to kick

1412
00:57:57,230 --> 00:57:54,540
it off with something I loved it man

1413
00:57:58,910 --> 00:57:57,240
thank you thank you no better way to

1414
00:58:00,049 --> 00:57:58,920
start it you too take care I appreciate

1415
00:58:01,250 --> 00:58:00,059
it thanks to everybody watching I

1416
00:58:05,210 --> 00:58:01,260
appreciate it

1417
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:05,220
thanks John have a good night you too

1418
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:09,359
wow so last minute guys thank you so

1419
00:58:12,410 --> 00:58:11,280
much to John Greenwald for hopping in

1420
00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:12,420
here

1421
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:15,000
um I knew I heard Rumblings that he was

1422
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:17,280
coming out with a big story today and as

1423
00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:20,640
usual he did not disappoint go over to

1424
00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:22,920
theblackval.com and check out his latest

1425
00:58:28,190 --> 00:58:25,920
story follow him download everything

1426
00:58:29,630 --> 00:58:28,200
subscribe you know the deal I don't have

1427
00:58:33,230 --> 00:58:29,640
to do that anymore

1428
00:58:35,569 --> 00:58:33,240
um yeah yeah so now about an hour in

1429
00:58:38,329 --> 00:58:35,579
we're starting guys the ask me anything

1430
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:38,339
I've got a couple questions here starred

1431
00:58:42,410 --> 00:58:39,599
um but before we do that I got some

1432
00:58:46,130 --> 00:58:42,420
other stuff to share with you guys I'm

1433
00:58:47,809 --> 00:58:46,140
finally having a Scottish beer uh oh my

1434
00:58:50,329 --> 00:58:47,819
God this is so good if you guys have

1435
00:58:53,089 --> 00:58:50,339
Belhaven anywhere in your neck of the

1436
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:53,099
woods definitely give it a try it is a

1437
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,440
delicious dark Stout they got a bunch of

1438
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:57,599
different beers and I literally live

1439
00:59:01,730 --> 00:58:59,760
right across the street from a Tavern

1440
00:59:04,370 --> 00:59:01,740
here in Scotland

1441
00:59:06,530 --> 00:59:04,380
um so that's both dangerous and and very

1442
00:59:08,990 --> 00:59:06,540
uh very good good for a beer near like

1443
00:59:13,010 --> 00:59:09,000
myself so um cheers cheers to you guys

1444
00:59:15,890 --> 00:59:13,020
and we will start the AMA

1445
00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:15,900
let's go to our first starred question

1446
00:59:22,010 --> 00:59:19,260
here from Neil uh ask you anything what

1447
00:59:26,930 --> 00:59:22,020
will Santa bring me this year hopefully

1448
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:26,940
a UFO report hopefully with at least 200

1449
00:59:31,490 --> 00:59:30,240
cases uh that we can look at but um I

1450
00:59:34,370 --> 00:59:31,500
don't know depends on how good you were

1451
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:34,380
this year Neil naughty list I don't know

1452
00:59:39,230 --> 00:59:37,200
man you let me know you let me know uh

1453
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:39,240
let's see also I have to thank Jazz

1454
00:59:43,370 --> 00:59:42,000
earlier um for the Super Chat thanks so

1455
00:59:46,670 --> 00:59:43,380
much for hopping in my man I remember

1456
00:59:50,569 --> 00:59:48,289
ouch I'm glad I did put that up while

1457
00:59:52,970 --> 00:59:50,579
John was here although I know he would

1458
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:52,980
uh he would definitely take it in strive

1459
00:59:56,990 --> 00:59:54,960
so Jazz thank you so much for the

1460
00:59:58,490 --> 00:59:57,000
support man truly truly appreciate it

1461
01:00:01,789 --> 00:59:58,500
guys if you do want to help out the show

1462
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:01,799
Super Chat is open um every penny goes

1463
01:00:06,349 --> 01:00:03,839
back in to somewhere in the skies we

1464
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:06,359
have a lot of really exciting projects

1465
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:09,839
coming your way very soon and um yeah

1466
01:00:14,109 --> 01:00:11,520
yeah your support means the world to me

1467
01:00:17,690 --> 01:00:14,119
uh we have our patreon campaign as well

1468
01:00:19,549 --> 01:00:17,700
patreon.com somewhere Skies uh where you

1469
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:19,559
get bonus content Early Access to

1470
01:00:23,329 --> 01:00:21,599
episodes and

1471
01:00:25,010 --> 01:00:23,339
um everything in between so those are

1472
01:00:28,910 --> 01:00:25,020
some ways you can help out the show for

1473
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:28,920
sure uh let's see here Daniel Bradley

1474
01:00:33,049 --> 01:00:30,960
asks any good UFO book recommendations

1475
01:00:35,210 --> 01:00:33,059
for someone interested in getting into

1476
01:00:37,609 --> 01:00:35,220
UFO research I already read your book

1477
01:00:39,410 --> 01:00:37,619
and it was great thank you thank you so

1478
01:00:40,670 --> 01:00:39,420
much Danielle that's extremely extremely

1479
01:00:41,630 --> 01:00:40,680
kind of you

1480
01:00:44,930 --> 01:00:41,640
um

1481
01:00:46,990 --> 01:00:44,940
more news on books future books in the

1482
01:00:50,569 --> 01:00:47,000
very near future so stay tuned for that

1483
01:00:53,210 --> 01:00:50,579
uh oh man where do I even begin

1484
01:00:55,609 --> 01:00:53,220
um well John and I spoke about the late

1485
01:00:58,190 --> 01:00:55,619
James MacDonald and the book called

1486
01:00:59,690 --> 01:00:58,200
Firestorm which is based on his life and

1487
01:01:02,750 --> 01:00:59,700
career if you don't know who James

1488
01:01:06,849 --> 01:01:02,760
McDonald is Google him put in his name

1489
01:01:09,410 --> 01:01:06,859
UFOs and uh you'll be very uh I think

1490
01:01:11,089 --> 01:01:09,420
inspired by a lot of the early work he

1491
01:01:13,789 --> 01:01:11,099
did in this field and kind of the

1492
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:13,799
landmines he stepped on so the rest of

1493
01:01:18,650 --> 01:01:15,839
us could uh walk through the trenches

1494
01:01:20,589 --> 01:01:18,660
and get to where we are today uh very

1495
01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:20,599
very interesting guy very very very

1496
01:01:25,609 --> 01:01:23,940
powerful book and emotional so that's

1497
01:01:27,530 --> 01:01:25,619
one I'd highly recommend

1498
01:01:31,069 --> 01:01:27,540
um I know the one everyone always goes

1499
01:01:32,750 --> 01:01:31,079
to is Leslie Kane's book UFOs and that's

1500
01:01:35,809 --> 01:01:32,760
for a reason it's an incredible

1501
01:01:38,270 --> 01:01:35,819
incredible read uh she has generals

1502
01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:38,280
Pilots government officials all going on

1503
01:01:42,530 --> 01:01:39,780
the record telling their own stories

1504
01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:42,540
about UFOs and there involvement with

1505
01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:46,200
cases the cover-ups that exist and their

1506
01:01:51,650 --> 01:01:47,880
thoughts and theories on what they may

1507
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:51,660
have encountered so probably one of the

1508
01:01:56,990 --> 01:01:54,540
defining books of euphology in the last

1509
01:02:00,170 --> 01:01:57,000
you know 10 to 15 years so check out

1510
01:02:04,010 --> 01:02:00,180
UFOs by Leslie Kane

1511
01:02:06,589 --> 01:02:04,020
um I also would recommend Diana Walsh

1512
01:02:09,650 --> 01:02:06,599
pasoka's Book American Cosmic which is

1513
01:02:11,089 --> 01:02:09,660
another fantastic book by a female UFO

1514
01:02:13,370 --> 01:02:11,099
researcher

1515
01:02:16,190 --> 01:02:13,380
um who writes about she's a religious

1516
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:16,200
studies Professor uh and has written

1517
01:02:23,390 --> 01:02:19,920
about how UFOs have kind of become a new

1518
01:02:26,450 --> 01:02:23,400
religion in so many senses of the word

1519
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:26,460
and uh very very very good book I highly

1520
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:30,240
recommend that as well uh what else what

1521
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:31,680
else what else

1522
01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:33,599
um there's a new book out by Kelly Chase

1523
01:02:38,450 --> 01:02:36,900
uh down the UFO Rabbit Hole uh I know

1524
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:38,460
I'm probably butchering that title so

1525
01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:40,079
Kelly if you're watching I'm so sorry

1526
01:02:44,450 --> 01:02:42,480
but check out her podcast ask the UFO

1527
01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:44,460
rabbit hole and her new book that just

1528
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:46,440
came up which is kind of a companion to

1529
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:48,960
the podcast uh she's taken the UFO World

1530
01:02:53,690 --> 01:02:51,119
by storm and I can't wait to see what

1531
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:53,700
she what she does next so yeah those are

1532
01:02:57,950 --> 01:02:55,680
three books or four books three books

1533
01:03:00,589 --> 01:02:57,960
four books to uh check out for sure so

1534
01:03:02,990 --> 01:03:00,599
thank you Danielle

1535
01:03:05,030 --> 01:03:03,000
um let's see here I'm missing a lot of

1536
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:05,040
chats I do apologize guys let me back up

1537
01:03:09,710 --> 01:03:07,920
here for just a sec

1538
01:03:10,910 --> 01:03:09,720
uh John greenwald's in the chat look

1539
01:03:13,370 --> 01:03:10,920
forward to Scottish beer with you

1540
01:03:15,710 --> 01:03:13,380
someday Ryan we should do do a do a live

1541
01:03:18,410 --> 01:03:15,720
stream with alcohol in hand cheers buddy

1542
01:03:20,030 --> 01:03:18,420
cheers to that for sure thanks John

1543
01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:20,040
thanks again for hopping in my man

1544
01:03:25,549 --> 01:03:23,940
really really I appreciate it uh let's

1545
01:03:29,450 --> 01:03:25,559
see here

1546
01:03:32,030 --> 01:03:29,460
uh UAP uh tour wow

1547
01:03:35,150 --> 01:03:32,040
uh tiroa asks have you ever read

1548
01:03:37,789 --> 01:03:35,160
unconventional fine objects by Paul R

1549
01:03:39,289 --> 01:03:37,799
Hill I have not but it sounds intriguing

1550
01:03:40,970 --> 01:03:39,299
I'd love to learn more about it I'll

1551
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:40,980
have to check it out after this

1552
01:03:46,370 --> 01:03:44,640
Christmas is coming up guys hint hint if

1553
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:46,380
the Sprague family are watching this or

1554
01:03:51,049 --> 01:03:48,720
to get me for that stocking stuffer I

1555
01:03:52,670 --> 01:03:51,059
would definitely like to check that out

1556
01:03:53,809 --> 01:03:52,680
um so thank you thank you for that

1557
01:03:57,770 --> 01:03:53,819
question

1558
01:03:57,780 --> 01:04:04,549
hmm

1559
01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:07,789
Brian do you this is from the anti-try

1560
01:04:12,349 --> 01:04:10,140
art I love that name Ryan do you have a

1561
01:04:16,309 --> 01:04:12,359
triangular UFO lying on your shelf back

1562
01:04:17,930 --> 01:04:16,319
there I do yes yeah you can see it right

1563
01:04:20,329 --> 01:04:17,940
there um that was part of the Christmas

1564
01:04:23,690 --> 01:04:20,339
ornament uh collection that I got last

1565
01:04:27,170 --> 01:04:23,700
year for Christmas uh so I have also I

1566
01:04:30,829 --> 01:04:27,180
have a Tic Tac and I have a saucer and I

1567
01:04:32,210 --> 01:04:30,839
have a um a orb and the triangle so I'll

1568
01:04:34,250 --> 01:04:32,220
be putting up a little Christmas tree

1569
01:04:37,370 --> 01:04:34,260
here in Scotland hopefully in the next

1570
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:37,380
month or so and we'll be showing off a

1571
01:04:42,049 --> 01:04:39,839
lot of those ornaments very proudly so

1572
01:04:46,250 --> 01:04:42,059
yes that is the triangle thanks for

1573
01:04:46,260 --> 01:04:53,990
let's see here

1574
01:04:58,490 --> 01:04:56,270
let's see is Thanksgiving the next date

1575
01:05:01,549 --> 01:04:58,500
when looking to report dump on uh that's

1576
01:05:03,170 --> 01:05:01,559
a good question uh it's possible uh you

1577
01:05:05,870 --> 01:05:03,180
know a lot of the times they dump these

1578
01:05:07,789 --> 01:05:05,880
things on a Friday or a Sunday or a

1579
01:05:11,390 --> 01:05:07,799
holiday when the least amount of people

1580
01:05:14,329 --> 01:05:11,400
are you know checking their socials or

1581
01:05:16,010 --> 01:05:14,339
um reading the news even so it is

1582
01:05:18,109 --> 01:05:16,020
possible that this report could get

1583
01:05:21,170 --> 01:05:18,119
pushed all the way back to Thanksgiving

1584
01:05:26,930 --> 01:05:21,180
I hope not but we'll see we'll see for

1585
01:05:35,930 --> 01:05:28,970
see Ross says Diana prasaka is well

1586
01:05:40,190 --> 01:05:38,390
um there was one other start question I

1587
01:05:41,809 --> 01:05:40,200
had here

1588
01:05:44,030 --> 01:05:41,819
a pursuit of the Paranormal hello

1589
01:05:46,730 --> 01:05:44,040
evening guys if we can now talk about

1590
01:05:48,530 --> 01:05:46,740
the UFOs when do we talk abductions

1591
01:05:50,890 --> 01:05:48,540
pursuit of the Paranormal podcast

1592
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:50,900
everyone go subscribe right now

1593
01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:53,280
wonderful wonderful work by my friends

1594
01:05:57,170 --> 01:05:55,260
here in the UK

1595
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:57,180
um some of whom I got to meet very

1596
01:06:01,849 --> 01:05:59,760
recently in uh in Newcastle not

1597
01:06:03,049 --> 01:06:01,859
Newcastle excuse me that was my Midway

1598
01:06:05,809 --> 01:06:03,059
Point

1599
01:06:08,569 --> 01:06:05,819
um where was I oh my gosh

1600
01:06:12,589 --> 01:06:08,579
it's it's it's escaping my memory

1601
01:06:14,569 --> 01:06:12,599
pursuit of the Paranormal where were we

1602
01:06:17,329 --> 01:06:14,579
clearly I've had a little too much to

1603
01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:17,339
drink already guys but no had an awesome

1604
01:06:22,849 --> 01:06:20,700
time meeting everyone out there and um

1605
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:22,859
and Talking UFOs it was such a pleasure

1606
01:06:26,809 --> 01:06:24,720
such a pleasure uh when do we talk

1607
01:06:29,089 --> 01:06:26,819
abductions

1608
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:29,099
I don't know that's a very good question

1609
01:06:37,069 --> 01:06:33,839
there's so many implications to uh the

1610
01:06:39,049 --> 01:06:37,079
abduction phenomenon uh you know and

1611
01:06:41,049 --> 01:06:39,059
baby steps you know we're just now

1612
01:06:44,930 --> 01:06:41,059
getting the US government acknowledging

1613
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:44,940
UFOs exist in our worth our time to put

1614
01:06:49,250 --> 01:06:47,039
money into investigating and hopefully

1615
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:49,260
that'll bleed over into other world

1616
01:06:53,870 --> 01:06:51,359
governments and um the day will come

1617
01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:53,880
when we can start talking about uh

1618
01:06:58,849 --> 01:06:55,680
abductions Close Encounters the

1619
01:07:01,490 --> 01:06:58,859
Paranormal uh the occult even

1620
01:07:03,589 --> 01:07:01,500
um all of this stuff so hopefully there

1621
01:07:05,329 --> 01:07:03,599
will be a convergence in the future of

1622
01:07:08,690 --> 01:07:05,339
all of this when we can finally start

1623
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:08,700
having those harder conversations but um

1624
01:07:14,569 --> 01:07:11,520
look it's been over 70 years with just

1625
01:07:16,910 --> 01:07:14,579
acknowledging UFOs so imagine how long

1626
01:07:18,650 --> 01:07:16,920
it'll take for us to get any further

1627
01:07:20,450 --> 01:07:18,660
um but the goal post is moving and and

1628
01:07:22,069 --> 01:07:20,460
we're moving down the line and and

1629
01:07:24,529 --> 01:07:22,079
hopefully we'll get into the end zone

1630
01:07:25,450 --> 01:07:24,539
hopefully hopefully soon that's all the

1631
01:07:31,549 --> 01:07:25,460
football

1632
01:07:35,150 --> 01:07:31,559
guys tonight so yeah yeah here we go

1633
01:07:37,549 --> 01:07:35,160
uh moving on to our next questions here

1634
01:07:39,529 --> 01:07:37,559
you should do a show about wintertime

1635
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:39,539
Mountain encounters and call it

1636
01:07:44,450 --> 01:07:42,240
somewhere in the skis I love that Rob

1637
01:07:46,490 --> 01:07:44,460
I've definitely I've definitely thought

1638
01:07:49,069 --> 01:07:46,500
about that

1639
01:07:51,770 --> 01:07:49,079
uh Dr Michael Reese welcome welcome what

1640
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:51,780
kind of music do you listen to

1641
01:07:58,250 --> 01:07:55,680
um all types all types man um I grew up

1642
01:08:00,349 --> 01:07:58,260
a lot on classic rock

1643
01:08:02,329 --> 01:08:00,359
um and that's thanks to my father who I

1644
01:08:03,950 --> 01:08:02,339
thought and still think has incredible

1645
01:08:06,289 --> 01:08:03,960
music taste

1646
01:08:10,490 --> 01:08:06,299
um you know everything from like Steve

1647
01:08:13,069 --> 01:08:10,500
Miller to uh the stones to Foreigner to

1648
01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,079
Journey all those kind of bands in the

1649
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:15,440
80s and whatnot and even in the 70s

1650
01:08:22,189 --> 01:08:20,400
Kansas uh CCR all of them all of them um

1651
01:08:24,110 --> 01:08:22,199
so I listened to a lot of that stuff

1652
01:08:26,809 --> 01:08:24,120
when I'm looking for

1653
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:26,819
um to just go back in time and kind of

1654
01:08:31,370 --> 01:08:30,239
view the world in those decades through

1655
01:08:34,370 --> 01:08:31,380
music

1656
01:08:35,329 --> 01:08:34,380
um but other than that I listen to a lot

1657
01:08:42,349 --> 01:08:35,339
of

1658
01:08:44,749 --> 01:08:42,359
is a band called and Berlin who uh was

1659
01:08:46,910 --> 01:08:44,759
kind of big in like the early 2000s and

1660
01:08:48,410 --> 01:08:46,920
then they uh they broke up but now

1661
01:08:50,689 --> 01:08:48,420
they're back together and making new

1662
01:08:52,849 --> 01:08:50,699
music so um yeah I'd highly suggest

1663
01:08:57,010 --> 01:08:52,859
checking them out on Spotify or you know

1664
01:09:00,650 --> 01:08:58,610
a-n-b-e-r-l-i-n-amberlain they uh

1665
01:09:03,530 --> 01:09:00,660
they're definitely a band that kind of

1666
01:09:04,970 --> 01:09:03,540
uh saved my life when when I needed it I

1667
01:09:07,849 --> 01:09:04,980
even have

1668
01:09:09,050 --> 01:09:07,859
um you can kind of see it here how can I

1669
01:09:11,630 --> 01:09:09,060
get this as

1670
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:11,640
much on the camera

1671
01:09:15,709 --> 01:09:13,920
you can't really see it but um it's a

1672
01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:15,719
typewriter tattoo with the words

1673
01:09:20,450 --> 01:09:18,239
dismantle repair which is actually the

1674
01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:20,460
name of an Amber Lynn song

1675
01:09:22,669 --> 01:09:21,839
um one of my favorite songs kind of

1676
01:09:24,289 --> 01:09:22,679
about

1677
01:09:26,870 --> 01:09:24,299
um breaking yourself down to build

1678
01:09:28,729 --> 01:09:26,880
yourself back up and and that song meant

1679
01:09:30,769 --> 01:09:28,739
a lot to me throughout my life and meant

1680
01:09:33,289 --> 01:09:30,779
for many different reasons

1681
01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:33,299
um so yeah yeah definitely definitely

1682
01:09:37,370 --> 01:09:35,520
that kind of music kind of alternative

1683
01:09:41,809 --> 01:09:37,380
rock and whatnot

1684
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:41,819
um and yeah yeah I I guess that's kind

1685
01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:43,679
of my musical taste I like a little bit

1686
01:09:47,809 --> 01:09:45,660
of everything there's days I want to

1687
01:09:49,309 --> 01:09:47,819
listen to show tunes I come from a

1688
01:09:54,050 --> 01:09:49,319
theater background so I'll definitely

1689
01:09:56,150 --> 01:09:54,060
rock some uh music man or or rent or uh

1690
01:09:58,010 --> 01:09:56,160
or or stuff like that

1691
01:10:01,610 --> 01:09:58,020
um when I'm when I'm getting homesick

1692
01:10:03,290 --> 01:10:01,620
and and missing Broadway for sure and

1693
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:03,300
um yeah yeah I would say those are

1694
01:10:08,270 --> 01:10:05,040
definitely kind of my musical taste so

1695
01:10:10,010 --> 01:10:08,280
thank you thank you for asking

1696
01:10:13,130 --> 01:10:10,020
uh Ryan have you looked into human

1697
01:10:15,709 --> 01:10:13,140
abductions with no return uh or human

1698
01:10:16,669 --> 01:10:15,719
mutilation sorry to get dark like your

1699
01:10:20,209 --> 01:10:16,679
beer

1700
01:10:23,149 --> 01:10:20,219
um I have uh I actually for the Travel

1701
01:10:25,729 --> 01:10:23,159
Channel for a show called uh Mysteries

1702
01:10:28,430 --> 01:10:25,739
at the Museum uh which was later renamed

1703
01:10:32,570 --> 01:10:28,440
beyond the unknown uh I did a whole

1704
01:10:35,570 --> 01:10:32,580
piece on someone who is abducted uh this

1705
01:10:37,370 --> 01:10:35,580
is in Australia uh valentich if you

1706
01:10:40,970 --> 01:10:37,380
don't know who that is

1707
01:10:42,709 --> 01:10:40,980
um and this pilot uh he got on his radio

1708
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:42,719
said that there was something above him

1709
01:10:47,390 --> 01:10:45,120
and that it was huge it was massive he

1710
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:47,400
didn't know what it was and won his

1711
01:10:51,950 --> 01:10:49,920
radio finally went dead all you could

1712
01:10:53,390 --> 01:10:51,960
hear was this metal scratching sound

1713
01:10:55,070 --> 01:10:53,400
before

1714
01:10:57,530 --> 01:10:55,080
um he could no longer communicate with

1715
01:11:00,110 --> 01:10:57,540
the flight towers and he disappeared he

1716
01:11:01,610 --> 01:11:00,120
was never found uh so super scary uh

1717
01:11:03,709 --> 01:11:01,620
there's a bunch of other cases like that

1718
01:11:05,810 --> 01:11:03,719
as well human mutilations I haven't

1719
01:11:07,310 --> 01:11:05,820
really looked in too much I know there's

1720
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:07,320
some out there

1721
01:11:11,390 --> 01:11:09,840
um Butch watowski is a researcher who

1722
01:11:13,010 --> 01:11:11,400
looked a lot into that

1723
01:11:14,689 --> 01:11:13,020
um so I would definitely suggest if you

1724
01:11:17,630 --> 01:11:14,699
do want to kind of dig into the deeper

1725
01:11:20,030 --> 01:11:17,640
darker sides to abductions or uh

1726
01:11:22,729 --> 01:11:20,040
mutilations uh he has done some work on

1727
01:11:25,010 --> 01:11:22,739
it and he's a former detective so he he

1728
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:25,020
did a lot of good work

1729
01:11:29,390 --> 01:11:27,120
um but yeah something I don't really

1730
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:29,400
dive into a lot trying to get more

1731
01:11:34,370 --> 01:11:31,920
positive uh moving forward with my

1732
01:11:36,290 --> 01:11:34,380
ufology uh so good question thank you

1733
01:11:38,990 --> 01:11:36,300
for asking

1734
01:11:40,490 --> 01:11:39,000
uh comedy history welcome welcome I know

1735
01:11:42,410 --> 01:11:40,500
you just moved to Scotland but do you

1736
01:11:43,790 --> 01:11:42,420
ever see yourself moving back to the U.S

1737
01:11:46,130 --> 01:11:43,800
someday

1738
01:11:48,890 --> 01:11:46,140
um I don't know honestly like I'm just

1739
01:11:51,290 --> 01:11:48,900
going where the wind goes and um where

1740
01:11:53,450 --> 01:11:51,300
where the work goes and I'm enjoying

1741
01:11:55,610 --> 01:11:53,460
every minute of being here so far I've

1742
01:11:56,750 --> 01:11:55,620
lived in the US my whole life um I've

1743
01:11:59,090 --> 01:11:56,760
had the very

1744
01:12:02,330 --> 01:11:59,100
Good Fortune of traveling a lot in the

1745
01:12:04,490 --> 01:12:02,340
past few years and as soon as I visited

1746
01:12:07,189 --> 01:12:04,500
Scotland I immediately fell in love with

1747
01:12:09,229 --> 01:12:07,199
it and lo and behold opportunity arose

1748
01:12:11,510 --> 01:12:09,239
and now I'm living here which is still

1749
01:12:13,970 --> 01:12:11,520
insane insane it still hasn't really hit

1750
01:12:15,709 --> 01:12:13,980
me um but who knows who knows if I'll

1751
01:12:17,330 --> 01:12:15,719
end up back in the U.S or or or

1752
01:12:20,750 --> 01:12:17,340
somewhere else

1753
01:12:22,130 --> 01:12:20,760
um we'll see we'll see the US has kind

1754
01:12:24,350 --> 01:12:22,140
of been shambles

1755
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:24,360
um and uh not exactly the place I want

1756
01:12:27,470 --> 01:12:26,159
to be right now to be completely honest

1757
01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:27,480
but

1758
01:12:31,729 --> 01:12:29,520
um I'm just being brutally honest guys

1759
01:12:33,890 --> 01:12:31,739
please don't be offended by by us

1760
01:12:36,830 --> 01:12:33,900
listeners or viewers

1761
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:36,840
um but yeah yeah who knows what the

1762
01:12:45,530 --> 01:12:43,070
give me a sec here guys

1763
01:12:49,070 --> 01:12:45,540
so hot in here I think my heat is on too

1764
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:51,709
uh

1765
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:53,040
um

1766
01:12:57,890 --> 01:12:54,719
see if we have any more questions here

1767
01:13:01,010 --> 01:12:57,900
oh my God my comment got red and so did

1768
01:13:05,330 --> 01:13:03,590
Eventide welcome Ryan now that you're in

1769
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:05,340
Europe have you considered doing an on

1770
01:13:09,950 --> 01:13:06,960
location type broadcast from a

1771
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:09,960
monolithic site could be cool absolutely

1772
01:13:13,130 --> 01:13:12,239
I have a lot of cool things planned for

1773
01:13:15,970 --> 01:13:13,140
the future

1774
01:13:18,830 --> 01:13:15,980
um still settling in trying to restart

1775
01:13:21,770 --> 01:13:18,840
reboot my life uh you know doing

1776
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:21,780
adulting things like finding a job and

1777
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:24,480
and getting the apartment in order you

1778
01:13:29,330 --> 01:13:27,360
see my sparse bookshelf here

1779
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:29,340
um working on that getting my UFO

1780
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:32,159
Library back to where it should be

1781
01:13:36,290 --> 01:13:34,800
um so yeah once things get going I

1782
01:13:39,470 --> 01:13:36,300
definitely want to get out there I mean

1783
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:39,480
Scotland is just such a magical ancient

1784
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:42,480
place that uh holds many Mysteries I

1785
01:13:48,290 --> 01:13:44,880
want to go to the um the islands the

1786
01:13:51,649 --> 01:13:48,300
orkney islands and Isle of Skye and

1787
01:13:54,010 --> 01:13:51,659
um I even want to go there's uh I forget

1788
01:13:56,590 --> 01:13:54,020
exactly where it is but the actual

1789
01:13:59,209 --> 01:13:56,600
McLeod clan castle

1790
01:14:01,130 --> 01:13:59,219
I'm a huge Highlander fan so I want to

1791
01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:01,140
go visit there and I will definitely do

1792
01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:03,600
some on-site investigations and stuff

1793
01:14:11,390 --> 01:14:06,239
like that uh that's for damn sure so

1794
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:14,209
let's see Amber land Dr Michael no it's

1795
01:14:21,530 --> 01:14:19,920
Anne Berlin and a n b e r l i n is the

1796
01:14:23,689 --> 01:14:21,540
band

1797
01:14:26,450 --> 01:14:23,699
Jess says are you sufficiently far from

1798
01:14:28,209 --> 01:14:26,460
London in any UK military bases in case

1799
01:14:29,870 --> 01:14:28,219
the Ukraine thing goes

1800
01:14:31,729 --> 01:14:29,880
nuclear

1801
01:14:34,130 --> 01:14:31,739
um

1802
01:14:37,070 --> 01:14:34,140
I hate hearing that word it really

1803
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:37,080
triggers me just so damn you

1804
01:14:40,750 --> 01:14:38,880
um scary times not gonna lie what

1805
01:14:44,270 --> 01:14:40,760
happened today in Poland is very

1806
01:14:47,390 --> 01:14:44,280
unsettling I hope uh I hope we can

1807
01:14:49,130 --> 01:14:47,400
figure it out I hope tensions don't uh

1808
01:14:51,050 --> 01:14:49,140
get too high

1809
01:14:53,209 --> 01:14:51,060
um you know we were making some progress

1810
01:14:55,970 --> 01:14:53,219
on a lot of fronts whether it's with

1811
01:14:57,649 --> 01:14:55,980
China in the US or Russia and Ukraine

1812
01:15:00,169 --> 01:14:57,659
and then lo and behold this happens

1813
01:15:03,290 --> 01:15:00,179
today so it really goes to show you

1814
01:15:07,010 --> 01:15:03,300
anything can happen at any time

1815
01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:07,020
um so yeah yeah it's it's concerning

1816
01:15:11,149 --> 01:15:08,640
being in Europe while all this is

1817
01:15:13,550 --> 01:15:11,159
happening but um all we can do is hope

1818
01:15:15,050 --> 01:15:13,560
for the best and um and prepare for the

1819
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:15,060
worst so

1820
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:16,560
um thank you guys for being here tonight

1821
01:15:21,410 --> 01:15:19,920
that's all I'll say thank you thank you

1822
01:15:25,910 --> 01:15:21,420
um you're keeping me distracted from

1823
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:30,850
let's see

1824
01:15:35,209 --> 01:15:33,530
babe Jim says vitamin D supplement is

1825
01:15:37,310 --> 01:15:35,219
required in Scotland I'm definitely

1826
01:15:40,610 --> 01:15:37,320
learning that man the sun is not

1827
01:15:42,830 --> 01:15:40,620
friendly to Scotland for sure

1828
01:15:45,890 --> 01:15:42,840
um I'm definitely definitely losing my

1829
01:15:48,050 --> 01:15:45,900
my my color living here so far but it is

1830
01:15:50,990 --> 01:15:48,060
what it is

1831
01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:51,000
you're so amazing thank you David truly

1832
01:15:55,310 --> 01:15:53,520
appreciate that

1833
01:15:56,750 --> 01:15:55,320
um let's see

1834
01:15:59,090 --> 01:15:56,760
did I miss any of these starred

1835
01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:59,100
questions nope I got to the

1836
01:16:03,110 --> 01:16:01,199
super chat questions guys so if you have

1837
01:16:04,610 --> 01:16:03,120
any more questions

1838
01:16:07,790 --> 01:16:04,620
um you can put them in the Super Chat

1839
01:16:09,350 --> 01:16:07,800
and uh I will definitely answer them

1840
01:16:11,330 --> 01:16:09,360
um I'll answer them no matter what don't

1841
01:16:13,130 --> 01:16:11,340
worry but if you want to help out the

1842
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:13,140
show that's a great way to do it get

1843
01:16:17,149 --> 01:16:15,360
your questions to the top

1844
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:17,159
um there's a few other things I wanted

1845
01:16:20,169 --> 01:16:19,199
to share with you guys

1846
01:16:22,850 --> 01:16:20,179
um

1847
01:16:25,010 --> 01:16:22,860
that have recently

1848
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:25,020
happened uh here's one I'm going to put

1849
01:16:27,950 --> 01:16:26,400
this on

1850
01:16:31,490 --> 01:16:27,960
this

1851
01:16:34,610 --> 01:16:31,500
is a piece of art that was created by a

1852
01:16:37,970 --> 01:16:34,620
artist here in um in the UK and that is

1853
01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:37,980
Olaf rochner and he made this for

1854
01:16:42,050 --> 01:16:39,840
somewhere in the skies and it absolutely

1855
01:16:45,290 --> 01:16:42,060
my jaw dropped when he said this to me

1856
01:16:49,010 --> 01:16:45,300
that's me and Chrissy Newton my co-pilot

1857
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,020
co-host of the show in a dystopian alien

1858
01:16:52,669 --> 01:16:51,120
invaded future

1859
01:16:55,070 --> 01:16:52,679
um Olaf told me he was kind of working

1860
01:16:56,930 --> 01:16:55,080
on something and that he'd drop it on me

1861
01:16:59,870 --> 01:16:56,940
as a surprise and lo and behold this is

1862
01:17:01,550 --> 01:16:59,880
what he sent me and it's amazing I

1863
01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:01,560
absolutely love it

1864
01:17:05,810 --> 01:17:03,540
um I should have this available in the

1865
01:17:07,790 --> 01:17:05,820
store soon so you can actually you'll be

1866
01:17:10,189 --> 01:17:07,800
able to get this on some merch if we

1867
01:17:12,890 --> 01:17:10,199
want to have me and Chrissy's face on

1868
01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:12,900
your mugs or your t-shirts uh this will

1869
01:17:17,990 --> 01:17:15,600
be available in the store so again huge

1870
01:17:19,070 --> 01:17:18,000
huge thanks to Olaf rockner go check him

1871
01:17:20,030 --> 01:17:19,080
out

1872
01:17:21,110 --> 01:17:20,040
um he's on Instagram

1873
01:17:23,450 --> 01:17:21,120
[Music]

1874
01:17:26,030 --> 01:17:23,460
um type in his name Olaf rochner

1875
01:17:27,530 --> 01:17:26,040
r-o-c-k-n-e-r

1876
01:17:31,070 --> 01:17:27,540
um on Google I'm sure everything will

1877
01:17:33,890 --> 01:17:31,080
pop up and I will uh subsequently put

1878
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:33,900
his his links in the show notes after we

1879
01:17:38,570 --> 01:17:36,480
uh we wrap things up here so yeah yeah I

1880
01:17:40,130 --> 01:17:38,580
thought that was pretty cool

1881
01:17:42,410 --> 01:17:40,140
um what is the other thing I wanted to

1882
01:17:45,229 --> 01:17:42,420
share with you guys

1883
01:17:47,209 --> 01:17:45,239
where is it oh here we go

1884
01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:47,219
so

1885
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:49,440
for those of you who don't know who this

1886
01:17:58,189 --> 01:17:54,000
is this is Kevin Conroy Uh Kevin was a

1887
01:18:02,390 --> 01:17:58,199
huge huge hero of mine I am a die-hard

1888
01:18:04,669 --> 01:18:02,400
Batman fan and uh Kevin played Batman in

1889
01:18:08,270 --> 01:18:04,679
the Animated Series probably my

1890
01:18:10,669 --> 01:18:08,280
absolutely uh biggest favorite Batman

1891
01:18:12,770 --> 01:18:10,679
thing to ever be created

1892
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:12,780
um Kevin did just such an incredible

1893
01:18:17,630 --> 01:18:15,840
incredible job playing both The Dark

1894
01:18:22,370 --> 01:18:17,640
Knight and Bruce Wayne in this series

1895
01:18:25,070 --> 01:18:22,380
and unfortunately uh we lost it uh not a

1896
01:18:28,430 --> 01:18:25,080
little less than a week ago now

1897
01:18:30,830 --> 01:18:28,440
um very unexpected and very unfortunate

1898
01:18:35,570 --> 01:18:30,840
but he was a huge inspiration to me both

1899
01:18:40,250 --> 01:18:35,580
as a actor a voice over person

1900
01:18:42,590 --> 01:18:40,260
um a a artist a a comic book fan and

1901
01:18:45,709 --> 01:18:42,600
most importantly as a human being just

1902
01:18:48,709 --> 01:18:45,719
one of the most positive inspirational

1903
01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:48,719
people out there and um he will

1904
01:18:52,189 --> 01:18:50,400
definitely be missed he meant a lot to

1905
01:18:54,890 --> 01:18:52,199
me I know he meant a lot of to other

1906
01:18:57,890 --> 01:18:54,900
people out there and I'm gonna go ahead

1907
01:19:00,830 --> 01:18:57,900
and actually play a video that Kevin did

1908
01:19:03,950 --> 01:19:00,840
uh as a cameo for somebody this really

1909
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:03,960
resonated with me and I've had this in

1910
01:19:08,810 --> 01:19:06,480
the queue for a while whenever

1911
01:19:11,149 --> 01:19:08,820
I I get down or

1912
01:19:13,250 --> 01:19:11,159
um depressed I I put this video on this

1913
01:19:15,649 --> 01:19:13,260
is Kevin talking about what Batman means

1914
01:19:17,930 --> 01:19:15,659
and what it means to the world and what

1915
01:19:20,209 --> 01:19:17,940
we could take from something like Batman

1916
01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:20,219
into our real life so check this out

1917
01:19:24,590 --> 01:19:22,140
I've been doing this role for 30 years

1918
01:19:26,810 --> 01:19:24,600
which is pretty crazy for an acting job

1919
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:26,820
but Batman the Animated Series became

1920
01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:29,040
Batman and Robin and Batman Beyond then

1921
01:19:32,689 --> 01:19:30,719
the Justice League then the Arkham games

1922
01:19:33,950 --> 01:19:32,699
it just kept evolving and evolving over

1923
01:19:35,810 --> 01:19:33,960
time

1924
01:19:37,490 --> 01:19:35,820
the amazing thing about playing this

1925
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:37,500
character for so long you know aside

1926
01:19:43,550 --> 01:19:38,400
from

1927
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:43,560
brooding complicated damaged man

1928
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:46,320
and aside from all the great actors that

1929
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:47,760
I've gotten to work with what's really

1930
01:19:52,910 --> 01:19:50,640
been interesting is is this this

1931
01:19:54,890 --> 01:19:52,920
interaction this conversation I get to

1932
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:54,900
have with the fans I didn't anticipate

1933
01:19:58,669 --> 01:19:56,640
when I started

1934
01:20:01,310 --> 01:19:58,679
how passionate people are about Batman

1935
01:20:02,810 --> 01:20:01,320
there's a really unique connection there

1936
01:20:04,370 --> 01:20:02,820
because it's not like that for Superman

1937
01:20:05,689 --> 01:20:04,380
or Wonder Woman in the flash it's

1938
01:20:07,310 --> 01:20:05,699
different with Batman

1939
01:20:09,229 --> 01:20:07,320
and I think the reason is that because

1940
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:09,239
of all the superheroes he's the only one

1941
01:20:14,090 --> 01:20:11,280
who's actually not a superhero there's

1942
01:20:15,470 --> 01:20:14,100
something Supernatural about Batman you

1943
01:20:17,990 --> 01:20:15,480
know what I mean he can't fly he can't

1944
01:20:19,850 --> 01:20:18,000
see through walls he's a man he's a

1945
01:20:21,530 --> 01:20:19,860
human being

1946
01:20:22,910 --> 01:20:21,540
um he's more like a detective some

1947
01:20:25,310 --> 01:20:22,920
people actually call him the great

1948
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:25,320
detective but not only is he human he's

1949
01:20:31,850 --> 01:20:28,080
a very flawed human and he knows he's

1950
01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:31,860
flawed he's been damaged by life

1951
01:20:37,550 --> 01:20:34,560
and we're all flawed right

1952
01:20:39,169 --> 01:20:37,560
and we all get damaged by life so what

1953
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:39,179
makes Batman that much more relatable

1954
01:20:43,790 --> 01:20:41,280
because he's so much like us in a way

1955
01:20:46,189 --> 01:20:43,800
what distinguishes him is that no matter

1956
01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:46,199
what life throws at him no matter what

1957
01:20:50,270 --> 01:20:48,719
crisis or challenge or failure he never

1958
01:20:55,370 --> 01:20:50,280
lets it

1959
01:20:57,530 --> 01:20:55,380
angry or bitter

1960
01:20:59,450 --> 01:20:57,540
he takes that pain that life throws at

1961
01:21:00,649 --> 01:20:59,460
him and he turns it into something

1962
01:21:02,330 --> 01:21:00,659
positive

1963
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,340
and he gives it back to the world as

1964
01:21:06,290 --> 01:21:04,800
love because his whole mission is to

1965
01:21:08,270 --> 01:21:06,300
leave the world better than he found it

1966
01:21:10,370 --> 01:21:08,280
and it's the nobility of that mission

1967
01:21:12,290 --> 01:21:10,380
that's what we admire so much about him

1968
01:21:13,729 --> 01:21:12,300
but that's something we can all aspire

1969
01:21:16,130 --> 01:21:13,739
to in our lives you don't have to have

1970
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:16,140
superpowers to want to give to the

1971
01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:17,520
people in your life to want to leave the

1972
01:21:24,110 --> 01:21:22,970
National control over what fate throws

1973
01:21:26,330 --> 01:21:24,120
at you you don't know what's coming

1974
01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:26,340
tomorrow or next month

1975
01:21:31,850 --> 01:21:29,520
life throws curveballs at everybody

1976
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:31,860
but what you do have control over is how

1977
01:21:36,290 --> 01:21:34,320
you react to those curveballs you can

1978
01:21:38,750 --> 01:21:36,300
let them Crush you and make you bitter

1979
01:21:43,850 --> 01:21:38,760
or you can learn from them and take that

1980
01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:45,350
yeah

1981
01:21:50,930 --> 01:21:48,000
very inspirational words by Kevin Conroy

1982
01:21:54,590 --> 01:21:50,940
and I think they just meant so much now

1983
01:21:57,350 --> 01:21:54,600
that uh he's passed on so recipes Kevin

1984
01:22:00,050 --> 01:21:57,360
we miss you man and we'll always have

1985
01:22:01,370 --> 01:22:00,060
your legacy to look back on in the

1986
01:22:04,189 --> 01:22:01,380
acting world and with Batman

1987
01:22:06,350 --> 01:22:04,199
specifically so yeah yeah that's enough

1988
01:22:09,229 --> 01:22:06,360
of that that's enough of that guys

1989
01:22:13,070 --> 01:22:09,239
um moving on to some more listener

1990
01:22:15,649 --> 01:22:13,080
questions here uh let's see Pine Cedar

1991
01:22:17,330 --> 01:22:15,659
says Ryan did you have your own sighting

1992
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:17,340
um he's talked about it here can't

1993
01:22:22,850 --> 01:22:20,400
remember the episode yes uh I have I

1994
01:22:26,209 --> 01:22:22,860
have had a UFO sighting this is in 1995

1995
01:22:27,950 --> 01:22:26,219
in central New York and I was fishing

1996
01:22:30,830 --> 01:22:27,960
off a dock it was just turning dark

1997
01:22:32,570 --> 01:22:30,840
outside and I reeled my line in and when

1998
01:22:35,930 --> 01:22:32,580
I did that I saw a reflection in the

1999
01:22:38,270 --> 01:22:35,940
water uh of a equilateral triangle three

2000
01:22:40,610 --> 01:22:38,280
white lights and when I looked up that's

2001
01:22:44,450 --> 01:22:40,620
when I saw it it was basically

2002
01:22:46,189 --> 01:22:44,460
um that triangle that you see right

2003
01:22:47,870 --> 01:22:46,199
there three white lights with a red

2004
01:22:51,050 --> 01:22:47,880
light in the middle that's why that

2005
01:22:52,729 --> 01:22:51,060
ornament means so much to me and I

2006
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:52,739
called for my dad to come out and look

2007
01:22:56,630 --> 01:22:54,480
at this thing with me he saw it and we

2008
01:22:58,970 --> 01:22:56,640
watched this triangular formation of

2009
01:23:01,970 --> 01:22:58,980
Lights float over the St Lawrence River

2010
01:23:03,950 --> 01:23:01,980
in uh Central New York and disappear on

2011
01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:03,960
the other side of the river over into

2012
01:23:08,450 --> 01:23:06,239
Canada and

2013
01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:08,460
um that was it for me that sent me on

2014
01:23:11,570 --> 01:23:09,840
this path

2015
01:23:13,490 --> 01:23:11,580
um I became obsessed with UFOs after

2016
01:23:15,229 --> 01:23:13,500
seeing that took out books at the

2017
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:15,239
library started interviewing people

2018
01:23:20,330 --> 01:23:17,760
interviewed my first UFO witness when I

2019
01:23:23,209 --> 01:23:20,340
was 13 years old

2020
01:23:25,189 --> 01:23:23,219
um a Vietnam veteran who had a dramatic

2021
01:23:27,290 --> 01:23:25,199
Foo Fighter UFO sighting over the

2022
01:23:29,810 --> 01:23:27,300
Pacific Ocean and I was the first and

2023
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:29,820
last person he told this story to before

2024
01:23:36,229 --> 01:23:33,120
he passed away and that meant something

2025
01:23:38,630 --> 01:23:36,239
to me that was very powerful and sent me

2026
01:23:40,370 --> 01:23:38,640
on this path to interview people and to

2027
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:40,380
hear their stories and to get them out

2028
01:23:46,250 --> 01:23:43,679
there to the public as best I can and uh

2029
01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:46,260
just show everyone that uh it doesn't

2030
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,440
matter your beliefs or um or what have

2031
01:23:53,450 --> 01:23:51,840
you uh everyone has seen something in

2032
01:23:56,090 --> 01:23:53,460
the sky they can't explain mostly

2033
01:23:58,130 --> 01:23:56,100
everyone I should say everybody and uh

2034
01:23:59,090 --> 01:23:58,140
have a story to tell and the more we

2035
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:59,100
tell these stories the more it

2036
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:01,199
normalizes the topic and the more we can

2037
01:24:05,149 --> 01:24:03,600
uh have those harder conversations about

2038
01:24:07,970 --> 01:24:05,159
what they are where they come from and

2039
01:24:09,050 --> 01:24:07,980
what do they want so yeah yeah that was

2040
01:24:12,110 --> 01:24:09,060
my story

2041
01:24:15,950 --> 01:24:12,120
thank you for asking

2042
01:24:18,649 --> 01:24:15,960
let's see here smacky

2043
01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:18,659
that is quite a handle there uh good

2044
01:24:22,370 --> 01:24:20,159
evening Ryan have you ever heard of the

2045
01:24:24,890 --> 01:24:22,380
penturk UFO incident in Wales I have

2046
01:24:26,810 --> 01:24:24,900
highly controversial case

2047
01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:26,820
um I have to admit I haven't looked that

2048
01:24:31,970 --> 01:24:29,760
much into it but but I actually

2049
01:24:34,669 --> 01:24:31,980
um am going to be speaking to some of my

2050
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:34,679
UAP media UK friends in the very near

2051
01:24:39,830 --> 01:24:36,960
future about that case and many others

2052
01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:39,840
as I continue to investigate UFO cases

2053
01:24:43,850 --> 01:24:42,480
here in the UK uh so yeah definitely in

2054
01:24:48,169 --> 01:24:43,860
the future I'm hoping to look more into

2055
01:24:53,209 --> 01:24:50,689
let's see UAP thank you so much for the

2056
01:24:55,490 --> 01:24:53,219
Super Chat truly truly appreciated did

2057
01:24:57,950 --> 01:24:55,500
you did your five eyes research get

2058
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:57,960
anywhere any leads for searches in New

2059
01:25:03,470 --> 01:25:00,480
Zealand as a five Vice partner

2060
01:25:05,169 --> 01:25:03,480
um I'm gonna be honest I haven't done a

2061
01:25:10,669 --> 01:25:05,179
lot of research into the five eyes

2062
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:10,679
lately I've been working tirelessly uh

2063
01:25:13,790 --> 01:25:12,480
to get the show

2064
01:25:16,250 --> 01:25:13,800
um the podcast

2065
01:25:19,310 --> 01:25:16,260
um to get ahead you know

2066
01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:19,320
um it's it's always difficult to try to

2067
01:25:23,330 --> 01:25:20,880
stay on top of things when you're also

2068
01:25:25,610 --> 01:25:23,340
when you also moved out of the country

2069
01:25:27,410 --> 01:25:25,620
you're from and starting a new life so

2070
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:27,420
right now I'm just trying to play catch

2071
01:25:31,550 --> 01:25:29,040
up with everything

2072
01:25:32,930 --> 01:25:31,560
um so hopefully I'll have more info on

2073
01:25:34,729 --> 01:25:32,940
the five eyes and what I've learned

2074
01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:34,739
about it and when I know a lot of other

2075
01:25:37,850 --> 01:25:36,480
researchers have learned about it as

2076
01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:37,860
well

2077
01:25:42,050 --> 01:25:39,600
um but definitely look into the work

2078
01:25:43,790 --> 01:25:42,060
someone like Christopher shark uh the

2079
01:25:45,649 --> 01:25:43,800
investigative journalist who runs the

2080
01:25:48,649 --> 01:25:45,659
Liberation times

2081
01:25:50,570 --> 01:25:48,659
um he's done a lot of looking into that

2082
01:25:52,850 --> 01:25:50,580
um John Greenwald I know for sure

2083
01:25:54,830 --> 01:25:52,860
probably has some Step Up On The Black

2084
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:54,840
Vault about the five eyes so yeah

2085
01:25:59,090 --> 01:25:56,400
definitely those two I would highly

2086
01:26:00,890 --> 01:25:59,100
suggest looking into for sure

2087
01:26:03,290 --> 01:26:00,900
um and look at the work of Grant levock

2088
01:26:06,290 --> 01:26:03,300
who's doing a lot of a lot of incredible

2089
01:26:07,790 --> 01:26:06,300
work pushing the topic in Australia I

2090
01:26:10,850 --> 01:26:07,800
know a lot of um

2091
01:26:13,010 --> 01:26:10,860
Australian UFO researchers work with New

2092
01:26:15,290 --> 01:26:13,020
Zealand as well at least their mufon

2093
01:26:17,689 --> 01:26:15,300
sectors do so I don't know if that goes

2094
01:26:20,450 --> 01:26:17,699
for government and Military as well but

2095
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:20,460
um Grant might be worth uh reaching out

2096
01:26:25,990 --> 01:26:22,800
to as well too to answer some of that

2097
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:30,709
losing my voice guys excuse me

2098
01:26:42,350 --> 01:26:32,510
see just gonna run through the chat a

2099
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,470
um

2100
01:26:49,669 --> 01:26:47,810
let's see Amanda Rose says I don't

2101
01:26:51,169 --> 01:26:49,679
comment a lot on these things but I've

2102
01:26:52,850 --> 01:26:51,179
been a long time follower of your work

2103
01:26:54,830 --> 01:26:52,860
and wanted to say thank you for all

2104
01:26:56,450 --> 01:26:54,840
you've contributed to this topic your

2105
01:26:58,370 --> 01:26:56,460
positivity and optimism is important

2106
01:27:01,070 --> 01:26:58,380
Amanda thank you

2107
01:27:03,590 --> 01:27:01,080
um I truly appreciate that and it's good

2108
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:03,600
to um hear that people appreciate that

2109
01:27:07,490 --> 01:27:06,000
for me because as John Greenwald and I

2110
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:07,500
talked about tonight

2111
01:27:13,550 --> 01:27:11,120
um it's very easy to get uh

2112
01:27:15,770 --> 01:27:13,560
disappointed with this topic we've been

2113
01:27:17,689 --> 01:27:15,780
burned so many times and it's an

2114
01:27:20,570 --> 01:27:17,699
enduring mystery that refuses to be

2115
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:20,580
answered and and that's tough for a lot

2116
01:27:26,090 --> 01:27:23,520
of people but I think for me living in

2117
01:27:28,370 --> 01:27:26,100
that mystery is actually

2118
01:27:30,890 --> 01:27:28,380
um it makes the pursuit worthwhile for

2119
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:30,900
me if I got the answers I don't know if

2120
01:27:34,370 --> 01:27:32,400
I'd like them I don't know if I'd accept

2121
01:27:36,649 --> 01:27:34,380
them and I don't know if it's going to

2122
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:36,659
be anywhere close to what I ever

2123
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:39,600
imagined they would be so um I just try

2124
01:27:45,709 --> 01:27:42,239
to take it day by day and like I said

2125
01:27:48,290 --> 01:27:45,719
continue to uh live in that mystery and

2126
01:27:50,510 --> 01:27:48,300
uh do things like this and meet amazing

2127
01:27:52,790 --> 01:27:50,520
people all over the world who've also

2128
01:27:54,890 --> 01:27:52,800
had incredible encounters and and

2129
01:27:57,229 --> 01:27:54,900
sightings and stuff like that so um

2130
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:57,239
thank you thank you for chiming in and

2131
01:28:00,470 --> 01:27:59,040
for that comment I truly truly do

2132
01:28:02,470 --> 01:28:00,480
appreciate that and thank you for your

2133
01:28:04,729 --> 01:28:02,480
support throughout the years that

2134
01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:04,739
honestly means more to me than anything

2135
01:28:09,229 --> 01:28:07,440
it really does that uh people will take

2136
01:28:12,649 --> 01:28:09,239
the time to watch or listen to what I do

2137
01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:12,659
and um and and and take something from

2138
01:28:16,370 --> 01:28:14,639
it and hopefully I've contributed

2139
01:28:20,810 --> 01:28:16,380
something to the topic in the

2140
01:28:24,770 --> 01:28:23,330
let's see Ian says Ryan please bring

2141
01:28:28,010 --> 01:28:24,780
back the spooky music on the personal

2142
01:28:30,410 --> 01:28:28,020
stories I I had him in the last one but

2143
01:28:32,330 --> 01:28:30,420
it was really low because I was told

2144
01:28:34,370 --> 01:28:32,340
that it's very distracting for some

2145
01:28:36,770 --> 01:28:34,380
people so I tried to just bring it down

2146
01:28:38,330 --> 01:28:36,780
a couple levels but it's there at least

2147
01:28:40,129 --> 01:28:38,340
subliminally

2148
01:28:41,930 --> 01:28:40,139
um but yeah I love putting the music in

2149
01:28:44,750 --> 01:28:41,940
the background but it's really like a 50

2150
01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:44,760
50 split if people like it or not some

2151
01:28:49,430 --> 01:28:46,800
people think it um it adds to it some

2152
01:28:52,610 --> 01:28:49,440
people think it's corny or distracting

2153
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:52,620
so um I don't know I don't know where um

2154
01:28:56,450 --> 01:28:54,719
where I land on it personally but uh

2155
01:28:58,669 --> 01:28:56,460
I'll try I'll try to make it more

2156
01:28:59,990 --> 01:28:58,679
prevalent in the next one Ian um we

2157
01:29:02,390 --> 01:29:00,000
should have a new witness accounts

2158
01:29:05,330 --> 01:29:02,400
episode coming out very soon got some

2159
01:29:08,810 --> 01:29:05,340
really cool cases to bring forward

2160
01:29:14,810 --> 01:29:10,430
foreign

2161
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:14,820
why do you look like an alien Jared asks

2162
01:29:19,550 --> 01:29:17,280
um maybe I am

2163
01:29:23,149 --> 01:29:19,560
you don't know Jared

2164
01:29:25,850 --> 01:29:23,159
um so maybe you should make a UF a a

2165
01:29:29,090 --> 01:29:25,860
YouTube video on um is Ryan Sprague an

2166
01:29:32,030 --> 01:29:29,100
alien uh show my reptile eyes we'll see

2167
01:29:36,470 --> 01:29:34,669
uh let's see

2168
01:29:38,930 --> 01:29:36,480
yeah I would hear his voice over for

2169
01:29:42,649 --> 01:29:38,940
Batman oh talking about Kevin yeah

2170
01:29:45,649 --> 01:29:42,659
comedy for sure for sure

2171
01:29:48,110 --> 01:29:45,659
um let's see there was one other thing

2172
01:29:49,729 --> 01:29:48,120
that I wanted to share with you guys

2173
01:29:53,090 --> 01:29:49,739
here

2174
01:29:56,510 --> 01:29:53,100
before I forget this was

2175
01:29:58,790 --> 01:29:56,520
uh our most recent episode of the

2176
01:30:01,070 --> 01:29:58,800
podcast actually

2177
01:30:03,110 --> 01:30:01,080
um sorry comedy I'm gonna get that off

2178
01:30:04,790 --> 01:30:03,120
there uh

2179
01:30:07,250 --> 01:30:04,800
we came out with an episode this week

2180
01:30:10,010 --> 01:30:07,260
unlike any other on the podcast before

2181
01:30:13,729 --> 01:30:10,020
and that was with Mitch Horowitz who's

2182
01:30:14,990 --> 01:30:13,739
an author and a occultist and uh this

2183
01:30:16,910 --> 01:30:15,000
guy's kind of been making the rounds in

2184
01:30:19,910 --> 01:30:16,920
the UFO world lately because he recently

2185
01:30:22,970 --> 01:30:19,920
spoke in New York City at a event that

2186
01:30:25,850 --> 01:30:22,980
was uh hosted by uh James iadali and Jay

2187
01:30:28,010 --> 01:30:25,860
Christopher King and um kind of blew the

2188
01:30:30,590 --> 01:30:28,020
audience away in terms of the

2189
01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:30,600
convergence of the occult and UFOs and

2190
01:30:35,930 --> 01:30:33,360
where we stand today on all that and um

2191
01:30:38,090 --> 01:30:35,940
this was one of my favorite discussions

2192
01:30:41,810 --> 01:30:38,100
we've ever had on the podcast this past

2193
01:30:44,570 --> 01:30:41,820
week and um because it was new territory

2194
01:30:46,850 --> 01:30:44,580
that being the occult I brought in a

2195
01:30:49,970 --> 01:30:46,860
past guest of the show Sarah Lyons who

2196
01:30:52,370 --> 01:30:49,980
is a practicing Witch uh and a occultist

2197
01:30:55,970 --> 01:30:52,380
and an author and she helped me navigate

2198
01:30:58,370 --> 01:30:55,980
this crazy maze of the occult and um and

2199
01:31:00,649 --> 01:30:58,380
and asked a lot of amazing questions of

2200
01:31:02,750 --> 01:31:00,659
Mitch as well and Mitch brought up

2201
01:31:05,209 --> 01:31:02,760
something really important I think that

2202
01:31:07,370 --> 01:31:05,219
uh a lot of people in the UFO field

2203
01:31:10,610 --> 01:31:07,380
including myself get caught up in a lot

2204
01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:10,620
and that's that there's this Smoking Gun

2205
01:31:16,310 --> 01:31:14,159
there's this one big question that needs

2206
01:31:18,890 --> 01:31:16,320
to be answered or a bit of information

2207
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:18,900
that needs to be uh dropped that will

2208
01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:22,560
kind of you know change everything and

2209
01:31:27,169 --> 01:31:25,679
um Mitch really put this eloquently in a

2210
01:31:31,810 --> 01:31:27,179
clip I'm going to show you guys about

2211
01:31:36,530 --> 01:31:31,820
how we have to kind of live in um

2212
01:31:38,510 --> 01:31:36,540
in the I guess the paradoxical nature of

2213
01:31:40,189 --> 01:31:38,520
a lot of this that there might not be

2214
01:31:42,050 --> 01:31:40,199
answers that things will constantly

2215
01:31:45,649 --> 01:31:42,060
contradict one another whether it's

2216
01:31:49,490 --> 01:31:45,659
scientifically or mystically or um you

2217
01:31:51,050 --> 01:31:49,500
know everything in between and he um he

2218
01:31:52,850 --> 01:31:51,060
can explain it a lot more eloquently

2219
01:31:54,590 --> 01:31:52,860
than I am right now so I'm going to go

2220
01:31:56,510 --> 01:31:54,600
ahead and play that clip for you guys

2221
01:31:58,610 --> 01:31:56,520
from this past week's episode of

2222
01:32:00,530 --> 01:31:58,620
somewhere in the skies it's really

2223
01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:00,540
important in the search to grow

2224
01:32:05,390 --> 01:32:03,360
comfortable with Paradox uh to grow

2225
01:32:08,030 --> 01:32:05,400
comfortable with dangling questions to

2226
01:32:10,970 --> 01:32:08,040
be able to sustain a question and not to

2227
01:32:13,129 --> 01:32:10,980
get into this thinking of a magic bullet

2228
01:32:16,430 --> 01:32:13,139
theory there's just one thing out there

2229
01:32:19,550 --> 01:32:16,440
and frankly that's what the some of the

2230
01:32:22,910 --> 01:32:19,560
um lesser Skeptics do you know they they

2231
01:32:24,290 --> 01:32:22,920
find one potential solution and they're

2232
01:32:26,510 --> 01:32:24,300
certain that they found the whole thing

2233
01:32:29,149 --> 01:32:26,520
so the placebo effect for example is

2234
01:32:31,790 --> 01:32:29,159
nothing but endorphins being released

2235
01:32:34,669 --> 01:32:31,800
into the body or nothing but

2236
01:32:36,590 --> 01:32:34,679
um you know immuno boosting enzymes

2237
01:32:38,330 --> 01:32:36,600
being released or something and and all

2238
01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:38,340
that may be true but that could be one

2239
01:32:42,129 --> 01:32:40,080
of a dozen things that are going on or

2240
01:32:44,930 --> 01:32:42,139
that could be what the prayer appeal

2241
01:32:46,910 --> 01:32:44,940
looks like what the spiritual appeal or

2242
01:32:48,890 --> 01:32:46,920
what hopeful expectancy looks like in

2243
01:32:51,950 --> 01:32:48,900
the body and it might look like 12 other

2244
01:32:54,830 --> 01:32:51,960
things too so you know we we really get

2245
01:32:56,510 --> 01:32:54,840
trained in the Western World to think in

2246
01:32:59,390 --> 01:32:56,520
terms of opposites there's true and

2247
01:33:02,090 --> 01:32:59,400
there's false and to a degree that

2248
01:33:05,390 --> 01:33:02,100
really comes out of Aristotle and that

2249
01:33:07,910 --> 01:33:05,400
can be incredibly restraining

2250
01:33:10,250 --> 01:33:07,920
um because there are very likely a

2251
01:33:13,310 --> 01:33:10,260
complexity of factors going on in any

2252
01:33:15,890 --> 01:33:13,320
situation and including intimate

2253
01:33:18,169 --> 01:33:15,900
situations and the wish to find that

2254
01:33:23,090 --> 01:33:18,179
magic bullet is kind of a cultural habit

2255
01:33:29,870 --> 01:33:26,450
yeah so I thought that was pretty pretty

2256
01:33:31,310 --> 01:33:29,880
powerful and um a lot of a lot of

2257
01:33:33,530 --> 01:33:31,320
mind-blowing moments during that

2258
01:33:35,510 --> 01:33:33,540
conversation so if you haven't please

2259
01:33:37,189 --> 01:33:35,520
you can um watch the latest episode

2260
01:33:40,010 --> 01:33:37,199
right here on YouTube with Mitch

2261
01:33:43,189 --> 01:33:40,020
Horowitz and Sarah Lyons or you can go

2262
01:33:46,250 --> 01:33:43,199
listen to the audio version as well uh I

2263
01:33:49,610 --> 01:33:46,260
highly would suggest checking that out

2264
01:33:51,290 --> 01:33:49,620
um let's see here

2265
01:33:53,090 --> 01:33:51,300
um

2266
01:33:54,530 --> 01:33:53,100
I'll answer a few more questions here

2267
01:33:56,390 --> 01:33:54,540
guys if you want to put them in the chat

2268
01:33:58,070 --> 01:33:56,400
we've been going for almost an hour 30.

2269
01:34:00,110 --> 01:33:58,080
so thank you thank you for sticking

2270
01:34:02,149 --> 01:34:00,120
around thanks again to John Greenwald

2271
01:34:04,490 --> 01:34:02,159
for hopping in and having a wonderful

2272
01:34:07,550 --> 01:34:04,500
conversation with us as well uh

2273
01:34:09,890 --> 01:34:07,560
Christian Christian who runs the UAB uh

2274
01:34:11,030 --> 01:34:09,900
UA DB website

2275
01:34:12,770 --> 01:34:11,040
um if I'm getting that wrong Christian

2276
01:34:14,590 --> 01:34:12,780
please correct me

2277
01:34:18,290 --> 01:34:14,600
um put a put a link in the chat as well

2278
01:34:19,850 --> 01:34:18,300
amazing website that sort of kung what's

2279
01:34:22,669 --> 01:34:19,860
the word um

2280
01:34:25,129 --> 01:34:22,679
kind of like Aggregates all of the UFO

2281
01:34:27,649 --> 01:34:25,139
news of the week podcasts and news

2282
01:34:30,410 --> 01:34:27,659
stories and and posts and whatnot uh

2283
01:34:33,169 --> 01:34:30,420
together in one place it's invaluable

2284
01:34:35,689 --> 01:34:33,179
it's amazing please check it out uh for

2285
01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:35,699
sure Christian says how is life in

2286
01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:37,440
Scotland have you met up with Andy yet

2287
01:34:44,990 --> 01:34:39,120
in Glasgow

2288
01:34:47,930 --> 01:34:45,000
I actually spent about nine hours in a

2289
01:34:49,970 --> 01:34:47,940
car with Andy and Graham Rendell as we

2290
01:34:53,090 --> 01:34:49,980
navigated our way through the highlands

2291
01:34:54,470 --> 01:34:53,100
and the lowlands and made our way to a

2292
01:34:57,169 --> 01:34:54,480
conference

2293
01:35:01,149 --> 01:34:57,179
um which was really really really fun

2294
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:01,159
where were we I'm forgetting again

2295
01:35:06,169 --> 01:35:04,260
Ash Ash Ellis if you're there buddy help

2296
01:35:07,729 --> 01:35:06,179
me out I forget where we were I'm

2297
01:35:08,750 --> 01:35:07,739
getting everything all mixed up here in

2298
01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:08,760
the UK

2299
01:35:12,970 --> 01:35:11,280
um but yes uh Andy and I have plans to

2300
01:35:17,390 --> 01:35:12,980
meet up again in the very near future

2301
01:35:19,850 --> 01:35:17,400
and uh hopefully do some uh UFO

2302
01:35:22,010 --> 01:35:19,860
podcasting together very very soon so be

2303
01:35:24,050 --> 01:35:22,020
on the lookout for that

2304
01:35:27,350 --> 01:35:24,060
uh Dale says isn't Ryan the most

2305
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:27,360
handsome hunk in the UFO Community I

2306
01:35:31,370 --> 01:35:29,520
swear I did not read that beforehand I'm

2307
01:35:33,890 --> 01:35:31,380
just kind of going down the line here uh

2308
01:35:37,910 --> 01:35:33,900
that's extremely kind of you what is

2309
01:35:41,270 --> 01:35:37,920
that emoji painting the nails I I have

2310
01:35:42,709 --> 01:35:41,280
really ugly nails to be honest but um if

2311
01:35:44,990 --> 01:35:42,719
I were to paint my nails it'd definitely

2312
01:35:46,430 --> 01:35:45,000
be black go for the Mitch Horowitz look

2313
01:35:48,050 --> 01:35:46,440
for sure

2314
01:35:51,530 --> 01:35:48,060
Mitch you've taken up enough of the

2315
01:35:54,350 --> 01:35:51,540
screen buddy bye

2316
01:35:57,350 --> 01:35:54,360
love you Mitch Horowitz

2317
01:35:59,689 --> 01:35:57,360
um let's see

2318
01:36:02,030 --> 01:35:59,699
oh Dr Michael thank you so much for the

2319
01:36:05,570 --> 01:36:02,040
super sticker truly truly appreciate any

2320
01:36:07,370 --> 01:36:05,580
support uh of the show thank you thank

2321
01:36:09,050 --> 01:36:07,380
you

2322
01:36:11,870 --> 01:36:09,060
let's see here

2323
01:36:15,709 --> 01:36:13,729
that's about it I've got a few other

2324
01:36:17,750 --> 01:36:15,719
cool things in the personal life guys

2325
01:36:21,410 --> 01:36:17,760
that I wanted to share with you I

2326
01:36:25,010 --> 01:36:21,420
recently was in London and I got to see

2327
01:36:29,689 --> 01:36:25,020
I'm not kidding you where is it

2328
01:36:32,270 --> 01:36:29,699
Back to the Future the musical no joke

2329
01:36:35,209 --> 01:36:32,280
Back to the Future is a musical and it's

2330
01:36:37,129 --> 01:36:35,219
running right now in London and I had

2331
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:37,139
the opportunity to go to London a couple

2332
01:36:41,930 --> 01:36:39,600
times now in the past month or so and

2333
01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:41,940
this time I was like I have to see that

2334
01:36:45,350 --> 01:36:43,679
back to the future is by far one of my

2335
01:36:47,810 --> 01:36:45,360
favorite movies and when I heard there's

2336
01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:47,820
a musical obviously I was hesitant like

2337
01:36:53,209 --> 01:36:50,639
oh God they're gonna screw this up but I

2338
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:53,219
had the time of my life and I will tell

2339
01:36:55,370 --> 01:36:54,719
you this

2340
01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:55,380
um

2341
01:37:00,649 --> 01:36:58,560
the special effects for this show are

2342
01:37:04,250 --> 01:37:00,659
going to completely revolutionize

2343
01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:04,260
theater I mean this ain't no chandelier

2344
01:37:09,350 --> 01:37:06,480
dropping from Phantom of the Opera or

2345
01:37:11,330 --> 01:37:09,360
helicopter you know landing on the stage

2346
01:37:14,270 --> 01:37:11,340
for Miss Saigon um what they have

2347
01:37:17,810 --> 01:37:14,280
achieved technologically in this show in

2348
01:37:19,850 --> 01:37:17,820
this production uh literally made my jaw

2349
01:37:23,570 --> 01:37:19,860
drop I won't give out give away anything

2350
01:37:26,270 --> 01:37:23,580
but um it's exactly what you expect from

2351
01:37:28,790 --> 01:37:26,280
a Back to the Future musical it's fun

2352
01:37:30,649 --> 01:37:28,800
it's got all the songs from the movie

2353
01:37:32,330 --> 01:37:30,659
that you love and it's got a lot of

2354
01:37:35,570 --> 01:37:32,340
original music too

2355
01:37:37,729 --> 01:37:35,580
um so so if you are in London or the UK

2356
01:37:39,950 --> 01:37:37,739
in general definitely check it out

2357
01:37:43,189 --> 01:37:39,960
um it is moving to Broadway it's going

2358
01:37:46,250 --> 01:37:43,199
to Broadway uh in the late spring so if

2359
01:37:49,129 --> 01:37:46,260
you're in the US and in New York or

2360
01:37:51,410 --> 01:37:49,139
anywhere in the US to be honest uh go

2361
01:37:54,890 --> 01:37:51,420
see it go see the show it was so much

2362
01:37:57,709 --> 01:37:54,900
fun um I think I have some photos that I

2363
01:38:00,050 --> 01:37:57,719
took while I was was there you'll see

2364
01:38:02,390 --> 01:38:00,060
the outside Marquee there and then that

2365
01:38:04,010 --> 01:38:02,400
blue screen is what they had on there

2366
01:38:05,930 --> 01:38:04,020
right before the show started really

2367
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:05,940
cool and then Marty McFly and the

2368
01:38:10,669 --> 01:38:08,159
pinheads of course

2369
01:38:14,990 --> 01:38:10,679
um I'll make cameos in the show the

2370
01:38:17,330 --> 01:38:15,000
pinheads and it was just so much fun so

2371
01:38:19,010 --> 01:38:17,340
much fun I I wish I could give away more

2372
01:38:21,290 --> 01:38:19,020
but I don't want to because I want

2373
01:38:23,390 --> 01:38:21,300
people to go see the show uh so check it

2374
01:38:24,649 --> 01:38:23,400
out back to the future of the musical

2375
01:38:26,689 --> 01:38:24,659
um hopefully

2376
01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:26,699
coming to a town near you

2377
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:28,560
in the future but if not go see it on

2378
01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:30,719
Broadway or London last kind of thing I

2379
01:38:35,689 --> 01:38:32,639
want to share with you guys is I am

2380
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:35,699
going to be doing a special episode uh

2381
01:38:41,090 --> 01:38:38,159
based on a play that I saw recently in

2382
01:38:42,290 --> 01:38:41,100
London as well and that's 222 a ghost

2383
01:38:45,290 --> 01:38:42,300
story

2384
01:38:49,010 --> 01:38:45,300
um I read this script maybe a year ago

2385
01:38:51,410 --> 01:38:49,020
and it blew me away and I told myself as

2386
01:38:53,390 --> 01:38:51,420
a playwright I have to see this I have

2387
01:38:54,410 --> 01:38:53,400
to see this on stage sometime and I

2388
01:38:56,030 --> 01:38:54,420
never thought I'd get the opportunity

2389
01:38:57,890 --> 01:38:56,040
but lo and behold it was playing in

2390
01:39:00,709 --> 01:38:57,900
London when I happened to be there so I

2391
01:39:02,390 --> 01:39:00,719
went to see it and it was everything I

2392
01:39:05,330 --> 01:39:02,400
had hoped and more

2393
01:39:08,209 --> 01:39:05,340
um it's scary it's funny it's emotional

2394
01:39:10,430 --> 01:39:08,219
and everything in between so again if

2395
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:10,440
you are in London at all go check out

2396
01:39:14,030 --> 01:39:12,719
222 it's

2397
01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:14,040
um probably going to be one of the most

2398
01:39:20,090 --> 01:39:17,040
the longest running shows in in the West

2399
01:39:22,970 --> 01:39:20,100
End history in London so um it's now

2400
01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:22,980
playing in Los Angeles and I'm going to

2401
01:39:27,709 --> 01:39:25,920
be having uh Anna camp the actress that

2402
01:39:30,410 --> 01:39:27,719
is in the last Los Angeles production

2403
01:39:33,229 --> 01:39:30,420
and the playwright Danny Robbins coming

2404
01:39:36,169 --> 01:39:33,239
on the show to talk all about ghosts the

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01:39:38,270 --> 01:39:36,179
supernatural um the process of Danny

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01:39:40,729 --> 01:39:38,280
creating the show the process of Anna

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01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:40,739
acting in the show and uh what the

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01:39:45,290 --> 01:39:42,480
supernatural the Paranormal in The

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01:39:47,629 --> 01:39:45,300
Unexplained means to them both as

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01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:47,639
artists and as individuals so I'm really

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01:39:51,470 --> 01:39:49,679
really looking forward to that uh

2412
01:39:53,270 --> 01:39:51,480
hopefully that'll be coming out very

2413
01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:53,280
soon so I hope you will check that out

2414
01:39:57,229 --> 01:39:55,440
as well we don't just cover UFOs here

2415
01:39:58,910 --> 01:39:57,239
it's somewhere in the skies we we like

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01:40:01,570 --> 01:39:58,920
to cover a lot of different things so

2417
01:40:05,570 --> 01:40:01,580
yeah be on the lookout for that

2418
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:05,580
uh other than that

2419
01:40:10,729 --> 01:40:06,960
um I think

2420
01:40:12,770 --> 01:40:10,739
that's all I got for you guys

2421
01:40:14,270 --> 01:40:12,780
so unless you have any more listener

2422
01:40:15,890 --> 01:40:14,280
questions you want to throw in the chat

2423
01:40:18,050 --> 01:40:15,900
right now

2424
01:40:21,649 --> 01:40:18,060
um I'm gonna call it a night we covered

2425
01:40:23,149 --> 01:40:21,659
so much uh I hope I answered some of

2426
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:23,159
your burning questions some really

2427
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:24,960
awesome questions so thank you guys

2428
01:40:29,810 --> 01:40:26,880
thanks for hanging out with me tonight

2429
01:40:31,430 --> 01:40:29,820
again on your Tuesday evening and

2430
01:40:33,770 --> 01:40:31,440
afternoon

2431
01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:33,780
um truly truly appreciated truly

2432
01:40:39,169 --> 01:40:35,760
appreciate uh the Super Chat and super

2433
01:40:42,410 --> 01:40:39,179
stickers and um and everything in

2434
01:40:44,330 --> 01:40:42,420
between uh oh last thing I'll mention uh

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01:40:46,550 --> 01:40:44,340
I'm recording an interview with the one

2436
01:40:49,310 --> 01:40:46,560
and only Whitley strieber tomorrow

2437
01:40:51,890 --> 01:40:49,320
Wednesday so if you have any questions

2438
01:40:54,350 --> 01:40:51,900
for Whitley Schreiber uh you can put

2439
01:40:58,250 --> 01:40:54,360
them in uh don't put them in the chat

2440
01:41:00,649 --> 01:40:58,260
here uh throw them to my email or uh in

2441
01:41:02,030 --> 01:41:00,659
DM me on Instagram or Twitter put them

2442
01:41:03,649 --> 01:41:02,040
over there I'll be sure to check them

2443
01:41:05,629 --> 01:41:03,659
out and hopefully we'll get to them

2444
01:41:08,209 --> 01:41:05,639
during our interview uh we'll mostly

2445
01:41:10,610 --> 01:41:08,219
probably be covering communion I have so

2446
01:41:12,470 --> 01:41:10,620
many questions about comedian both the

2447
01:41:14,030 --> 01:41:12,480
book and the movie

2448
01:41:16,370 --> 01:41:14,040
um but we'll cover a lot of Whitley's

2449
01:41:18,649 --> 01:41:16,380
recent stuff as well uh it'll be a very

2450
01:41:21,649 --> 01:41:18,659
wide-ranging discussion I'm sure and

2451
01:41:22,910 --> 01:41:21,659
profound and uh and Powerful uh but yeah

2452
01:41:25,850 --> 01:41:22,920
if you have any listener questions for

2453
01:41:27,830 --> 01:41:25,860
Whitley streamer be sure to email me uh

2454
01:41:30,050 --> 01:41:27,840
that email can be found in the show

2455
01:41:32,750 --> 01:41:30,060
notes and everything in between as well

2456
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:32,760
uh so if there are not any more

2457
01:41:37,609 --> 01:41:35,520
questions up we have one here before we

2458
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:37,619
go hi and Cedar asks are you going to

2459
01:41:41,510 --> 01:41:38,880
continue bringing your your co-host

2460
01:41:43,790 --> 01:41:41,520
Chris Young for future shows yes uh

2461
01:41:46,310 --> 01:41:43,800
Chrissy is lining up some awesome guests

2462
01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:46,320
uh guests you would never expect on a

2463
01:41:49,550 --> 01:41:48,239
UFO podcast and that's kind of what

2464
01:41:51,709 --> 01:41:49,560
she's been doing behind the scenes

2465
01:41:55,189 --> 01:41:51,719
lately is uh bringing us some very

2466
01:41:57,950 --> 01:41:55,199
diverse voices to this conversation

2467
01:42:00,649 --> 01:41:57,960
um and she's also busy herself she's got

2468
01:42:02,330 --> 01:42:00,659
her all-pop repeat podcast she's got um

2469
01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:02,340
the debrief she's doing a lot over there

2470
01:42:07,490 --> 01:42:05,760
she's currently working on a big media

2471
01:42:09,649 --> 01:42:07,500
project as well

2472
01:42:11,810 --> 01:42:09,659
um covering a lot of stuff out at a

2473
01:42:13,910 --> 01:42:11,820
blind frog Ranch skin walker Ranch stuff

2474
01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:13,920
like that uh so be on the lookout for

2475
01:42:18,050 --> 01:42:15,840
that but yes Chrissy will be with us

2476
01:42:21,709 --> 01:42:18,060
very soon again on somewhere in the

2477
01:42:24,890 --> 01:42:21,719
skies and um and yeah if this where is

2478
01:42:27,649 --> 01:42:24,900
it if this fan art says anything

2479
01:42:30,410 --> 01:42:27,659
um she'll be back sooner

2480
01:42:32,450 --> 01:42:30,420
sooner than you think Amanda thank you

2481
01:42:34,970 --> 01:42:32,460
so much for the super sticker I truly

2482
01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:34,980
truly appreciate that appreciate the

2483
01:42:40,189 --> 01:42:36,480
kind words

2484
01:42:43,070 --> 01:42:40,199
um Osiris one Ryan do you think tr3bs

2485
01:42:43,970 --> 01:42:43,080
belong to us

2486
01:42:45,890 --> 01:42:43,980
um

2487
01:42:47,629 --> 01:42:45,900
I don't know if the tr3 bees belong to

2488
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:47,639
anyone if you're speaking about

2489
01:42:53,149 --> 01:42:50,400
triangular UFOs in general

2490
01:42:55,790 --> 01:42:53,159
um I do believe there is probably some

2491
01:42:57,530 --> 01:42:55,800
sort of mix of human technology and

2492
01:43:00,709 --> 01:42:57,540
something else I don't know what that

2493
01:43:03,470 --> 01:43:00,719
something else is uh but the tr3b myth

2494
01:43:06,050 --> 01:43:03,480
is um not something I put much stock

2495
01:43:07,850 --> 01:43:06,060
into to be completely honest uh it was

2496
01:43:10,430 --> 01:43:07,860
brought forward by one person it's never

2497
01:43:11,810 --> 01:43:10,440
been verified or anything and why would

2498
01:43:14,689 --> 01:43:11,820
you verify it if it's a top secret

2499
01:43:17,450 --> 01:43:14,699
project I understand that but uh yeah

2500
01:43:19,310 --> 01:43:17,460
tr3b not really not really something I I

2501
01:43:22,010 --> 01:43:19,320
put much stock into

2502
01:43:24,290 --> 01:43:22,020
um but triangular UFOs yes that's for

2503
01:43:25,850 --> 01:43:24,300
damn sure since I've seen one so yeah

2504
01:43:29,090 --> 01:43:25,860
yeah

2505
01:43:31,910 --> 01:43:29,100
all right guys Amanda says a donation to

2506
01:43:34,430 --> 01:43:31,920
The Pub cheers cheers to that

2507
01:43:37,250 --> 01:43:34,440
um I'm gonna say good night thank you

2508
01:43:39,290 --> 01:43:37,260
again for watching uh for listening for

2509
01:43:41,209 --> 01:43:39,300
supporting everything we do here at

2510
01:43:43,490 --> 01:43:41,219
Summer in the skies be on the lookout

2511
01:43:47,330 --> 01:43:43,500
next week for our fascinating interview

2512
01:43:49,129 --> 01:43:47,340
with Whitley strieber and um and that's

2513
01:43:51,410 --> 01:43:49,139
it I'm Gonna Leave You with our slogan

2514
01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:51,420
as always guys keep your feet on the

2515
01:43:55,010 --> 01:43:53,040
ground but never stop searching

2516
01:43:59,330 --> 01:43:55,020
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